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The Joe Rogan Experience

January 31, 2022 Jeff and Anthony Episode 80
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The Joe Rogan Experience
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Jeff, Ant, and Mikey give their opinions on the Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson controversy. Should Joe Rogan's podcast be cancelled by Spotify? Is Joe Rogan a misinformed racist? The guys also criticize The Game's top 50 MCs list, Joey Badass' "life force" and Anthony says, "Democrats are pussy".

Topics Discussed:

  • Joe Rogan's podcast
  • Joe Biden calls a reporter a "stupid son of a bitch"
  • Russia vs. Ukraine
  • We are an economy built on spenders not builders
  • Eminem continues to make history
  • Pete Davidson
  • Is T.I. the best southern rapper of all time?
  • Jeff makes a case for Big Pun
  • Does preserving your semen help you live longer?
  • What is life energy? 
  • Mutual masturbation

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I'm Illy - T.I.

Special Guest: Mike Shethar
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Referenced Links:
Joe Rogan: These experts say podcaster is ‘extraordinarily dangerous’ to society – here’s why | The Independent

Joe Rogan, Spotify under fire over Jordan Peterson podcast - CNN Video

Joey Badass Says He Doesn't Want to Ejaculate During Sex - XXL (xxlmag.com)

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Jeff:

Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the culture this is episode 80 It's your boy Jeff I'm here with my man and accompanied by Mikey she was good fellas loop

Mikey:

was good was good was good just about everything

Jeff:

we snowed in I don't know how it is out there by you in Portland but we over here snowed in tri state area

Mikey:

I got I think I think we got 60 on the boards today. Fuck you. It's I know right? Yeah Not a cloud in the sky and

Jeff:

like 6018 degrees here.

Mikey:

That's too few degrees.

Jeff:

Yo, yo he's out sledding but he was part of this podcast

Mikey:

what happens when I mean when it gets cold like that and get snowy like that I just Well first of all Portland when it snows here the entire city shuts down it's amazing shit. It's no one knows how to drive. Everybody just everything shuts down ever just goes and like gets wine and beer and just sits in their house and drinks. It's amazing. I've never lived anywhere like it. But I mean for you guys like to the kid like two kids get off school actually or do nowadays people get off work? Yeah, well,

Jeff:

schools Yeah. To be real work. Don't give a shit. You better figure out how to get to work but schools Yeah. schools closed down for snow with snow. Yeah,

Mikey:

I mean, that's the thing now with it's so fucked up for kids and for adults who work that now everybody knows they can just work from home. You know, it's like, used to be when we got snow days. You were just off facts fucking great. Now it's like, oh, no, we're just gonna do virtual

Jeff:

begin to work from home home to go back in March. So I got like, another month. I'm not looking forward to it. You're not Oh, not at all. Yeah, I haven't. I mean, I haven't left my house in two years. But now I got to reprogram myself to get up extra early. shower, get dressed, figure out what I'm aware don't even know if I haven't been inside my closet in two years. But I don't even know what clothes fit me. don't fit me anymore. You know what I'm saying? So I got to figure out what to wear. And I got to make sure I leave early enough to beat traffic and get to eat I'm saying there's just so much showering want to go through all of that.

Mikey:

What's the level of dress that you're at your work? Well, they sent

Jeff:

an email they said is like I guess just comfortable as long as there's nothing ripped or torn or nothing too provocative or too sexy. You know, I guess.

Mikey:

But could you whip up a t shirt?

Jeff:

Might might have to be a collared shirt. I don't know. I'm have to go back and see what the new rule is gonna be. Yeah, you're obviously got to wear a mask now. And then man. Yeah. Ever? Yeah, walk around the building. They want you to go in this app before you're going to build it and want you to go on this app. And do like you know the self evaluation. Have you been coughing? Have you been no contact tracing? Do you know anybody that COVID No, no. Okay. You can come in you don't? I mean? Are they gonna tempt you at the door? Anything? No, they're not. They're just gonna make sure you got you go in the app. Answer all the questions that you're good. Yeah, you don't have a fever if you don't have a fever. Good. Okay, come in.

Mikey:

There was one of the dudes that I that I do some work with, or whatever he was telling me about how they have this employee who had COVID and, and tell everybody didn't, because he didn't want to miss work. But he would like, you know, he was just like, mopping his head. He would like start sweating. And he had his cough and stuff, but he would like mute. You hear that cough into a rag? And if you don't, okay, and he like fully had COVID and was at work, but was just like hiding the symptoms, like in the corner? Why? Just let them send you home. They're like, I know, dude, and they were like, you're gonna be alright, and you're gonna fucking kill us all. And we have to close down everything you know, and whatever. And so he just wanted to keep making money. Well,

Jeff:

let me do my roll call man for patrons we appreciate. Should I give out real names or tag names? This time around?

Mikey:

I don't know. What do you think?

Jeff:

I don't know somewhere. Man. He'd been real quiet. Might want to come on and let us know what's up so our listeners can evaluate. I mean, you didn't get no backlash from last week's episode about the racism hating white people. I ain't get no backlash for that.

Mikey:

I think. I feel like everybody listens to the show. They just, they're new. Right there. Yeah, he's not racist. He's just there. He's just judgmental. Just good.

Jeff:

But yeah, let me give a shout out to our Patreon I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with full government names this week. Let me start

Anthony:

first name only first names. They might have child support worn before the program even losing weight.

Jeff:

So let's just say give a shout out to them with that I'm gonna do if they have tag names. I'm gonna do a first name and a tag names. How's

Anthony:

That works

Jeff:

Let's give a shout out to Danny aka Alex SoSAFE. Give a shout out to Eric, aka grand Kaiser who is still waiting on for y'all to do the little vs thing with shout out Natasha. Shout out to my man Mikey she

Mikey:

appreciate your presence.

Jeff:

Shout out to Sebastian aka Simba and shout out to last but not least Melissa. Anyway Yo, I want to get into this fucking Joe Rogan shit going straight to the chase. We all know how and feels about white people. I used to fuck with the Joe Rogan Show

Mikey:

Joe Rogan's a did he's another he's a different level of white person

Jeff:

I used to I used when back in the day Joe I used to fuck with the Joe Rogan and I even said when we first started the podcast like what not like I used to listen to the shit you know I'm saying cuz he you know he had a lot Oh to his show, right? He had a lot You know, interesting guests and very diverse guests and some of the guests, right I fuck with this person. And but obviously the more I started paying attention he was started this guest was wow, I was like I some of his guests was sounding racist. And he was just letting them cook he would let them go on the show and just say whatever and I'm like, You're not even checking these people, you know, I'm saying, and I just eventually stopped you know, watching I don't even know I haven't watched it in a while now. But recently, he's been making headlines. Delete Spotify. Hashtag Delete. Spotify is trending. has gone viral after you know, after his podcast has recently drawn criticism. Tell us a little bit more about that check. Coming in check. I called them Shaq and shout out to my man.

Mikey:

There's racism on this show, too. Yeah, we

Jeff:

always mentioned Shaq. Hey, black fella. Oh, that's racist. I say none of this color or ethnicity.

Mikey:

Got them? Shaq

Anthony:

a whole different negros name. My main check look nothing like he called me a whole different negros namely a shack. Hey, hey. Hey, Lawrence. He back there. Right now is actually here. Shaq is the show for Shaquil is the Shaquille I don't know how to pronounce that. Right.

Mikey:

Shaq walay

Anthony:

Shaq Shaq Well, is it fresh? No bitch. So Joe has a tendency to bring this guy called Jordan Peterson he was a clinical psychologist from Canada saying all types of while racist shit too. So basically, like Jordan Peterson had a conversation with Michael Eric Dyson. And I think called called Jordan Peterson like an angry angry white boy. And he's like, Well, I'm not angry. Well, I'm not white either more tan like you know, he's not he's not really black he this kind of tan and Joe goes on this tangent like, you know, he found the black white thing to be kind of strange. You know this spectrum to people like in his words were unless you're talking to someone who's like 100% African from the darkest place where they are not wearing any clothes all day. And their development all that melanin to protect themselves from the sun. You know, even the term Black is weird. Even for people who are literally my color, it only become very strange. Again, not that I hate white people. Not that I dislike them.

Jeff:

They did say that he also say that he wasn't blind was while at a pocket. And he says

Anthony:

yeah, he did try to get cute with it. Like the whole color spectrum and things like that. It's a that's it's annoying. It really is because it's not anything to do with us at all. Like, like he could have just left that part alone is like haha, he He chuckled this shit off. He just felt that he had to like put on his thinking cap to make a pretty obvious point about the whole color. No one's purely white, and no one's purely black. That's obvious, right? But say the whole thing like, you know, unless you're from Africa, like the darkest part, like the darkest parts of Africa. Like it's not this big fucking continent. Not the light part. But the darkest pocket

Jeff:

See you at night?

Anthony:

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Like, if only I've seen your like bright pearly teeth. That's the kind of shit he's on. But the whole thing is like it's so unnecessary. And it's just been a rough week for him because what I think Joni Mitchell said take all my shirt off Spotify, Neil Young said took all of my shirt off Spotify. Yeah, so the whole the whole, like stop Spotify thing, modify their backing job because they paid him so much money. Like they've literally turned off like their customer service where you like you get a live person. Now it's prompt because people keep calling to the art like No, no, I want to kill

Jeff:

anyone. Go fuck yourself. All prompts

Anthony:

like no more live people that yeah, you see where the bread is buttered. You see what sad Dawn but this is just a problem of problematic white people like it's it's not a problem. White people does have a tendency to say and do some very problematic things and try to back up your bullshit with random Math Science wouldn't got him in trouble this week, because he's a he's an anti Vax kind of COVID. And I think that he had Jordan Peterson when they were talking about like, climate change is a real I'm looking at my window right now. It shouldn't really feel. I don't know what they be talking about. But it's like, it's like, did you let him fly with all the stuff and

Jeff:

the angel tell him well, no, no, let's let Angel tell it.

Mikey:

But don't you but this is the thing about Joe Rogan's show though his whole platform and his whole thing that he always falls back on is I'm just a platform for information. Like I don't really have opinions one way or the other. And if I do then they didn't even matter I'm just I just give people a platform to come on. And you know, and just give information. And it's I just think it's such bullshit because it's the same excuse that H chan or 4chan that people that host Q anon. It's the same idea that like just because I'm giving you any like an entry point into you know, a place where you can I actually have a megaphone for your voice doesn't mean that I'm promoting it doesn't mean that I believe in it. It just means that I'm giving it I'm giving it oxygen. And Joe Rogan. He has I don't know how many daily listeners or how many episodic listeners does he have in the millions. So when he starts talking about, you know, I got COVID, I was taking ivermectin I was taking, you know, hydroxychloroquine. People look up to him, he might not have to, like, you know, overtly or you know, objectively say that this is something that I believe in, but because he's given it the platform, because he's given it oxygen, because he has such a big reach. I don't know, I'm so fucking sick of that dude. And I'm so sick of people that I know telling me to listen to him.

Jeff:

Experts are saying that Joe Rogan is extraordinarily dangerous to society. That's like one of the headlines in the newspapers, because like I said, it's not even just about race, like he has this Peterson guy come on, and he talks race, climate, gender COVID-19. And he's telling people to not even get vaccinated. He's telling them to get the was that when that drug called the he'd be drinking I ever met that shit. You know, and a Surgeon General and the CDC and whoever else like, oh, nah, nah, don't listen to that shit. Like, we strongly advise against that.

Anthony:

Isn't that like a de warmer for cattle horse?

Mikey:

It's a horse dewormer.

Jeff:

But apparently, is what you want to take to come back over? Yeah, according to Joe Rogan.

Mikey:

I mean, and you know, the hardest part about COVID, I think is that it's so hard to pin down. It's so hard to be specific about, like, what the symptoms are, how you get it, how we control it. And so it leaves so much room for so much dumb Asri around the way that we can try to get around it because you can say like, Well, I've been well, and the one that I love lately is there's this big group of people pushing urine therapy, where you're supposed to drink your own urine. And there's the guy who's really promoted and he's been drinking his urine for 23 years. And it's a polite he claims that it cures cancer, AIDS COVID The code the effects from the COVID vaccine. I'm like, I'm just hoping that this guy is like a comedian, who is just going to get to the end of this and be like, you stupid fucks we're drinking your own piss. I was joking. This

Jeff:

is what the UK publication the independent role. They said throughout the COVID 19 pandemic Joe Rogan has repeatedly spread misleading and false claims if your mic, your mic came down on it. Sorry about that. There you go. So they wrote. This is the independent out of UK they wrote throughout the COVID 19 pandemic Joe Rogan has repeatedly spread misleading and false claims on his podcast provoking distrust in science and medicine. He has discovered vaccination and young people and children incorrectly claimed that the Maderna vaccines are gene therapy. He promoted off label use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 and spread a number of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. So he's getting on everybody's best site right now.

Mikey:

Not everybody.

Anthony:

What? I'm sick of white people don't. I mean, let me let me do even doing a shoot for two years, two years he been doing for two years. I didn't want to do why we man, this is why we met out of it because fuckheads like him like Jesus Christ. Just say, I don't have an opinion, do what you think is best for your family. That's it, but it keeps, okay. I could see if he was inviting people over. Like if he had Dr. Fauci on, like, every week, I didn't. But you just keep finding these random fucking people to keep spreading these things. And people keep dying. And they keep getting sick. And they think it's a fucking government conspiracy. It's not, the government loves you. They want you to prove to them because it means more spit. Yeah, they want more spenders. We're not We're not an economy built on building things. We're economy built on spending, you need more people to spend, we don't want you dead. We want you to live as much. Why fundamentally trying to get you back to work as fast as possible. You can still say home, they want you there. We want you to make money. Because you're going to go spend it you're we're not we don't build cars anymore. We don't build buildings, planes. That's not our thing. We were built upon a kind of economy before, where we created things until to the rest of the world. Now it's reverse the rest of the world build shit. They send it to us. This might come from America, this phony from America, that TV from America is just sold here because we're going to buy this kind of economy. And that's one thing that he won. But he's spreading these truths and these inaccuracies inviting these idiots on all the fucking time. And it's irritating because it's and that's why I'm saying people saying it's dangerous because if it was a smaller podcast, if you had like 100 listeners 1000 listeners 10 100 100,000 Cool, but you get millions every single episode you put on Yeah, and those people listen and like said they are you people who listen to for a while. And they you built this trust in them. So you're gonna say and do these things and everyone to listen to you and carry that shit out in the world. And that's just this man because I don't want to be VolunTours nobody in all honesty, I just truly don't. But if you're going to like I'd be seeing like videos of people in like Walmart. Surely that ain't got no mask on. If you do the shit around me, I'm going to fuck you up. If it got to come they gotta come to that but don't go It's a conspiracy you're all sheep and so on so forth you bought to be sleeping that flew in about five seconds Get the fuck out my way I got no time for this right now yeah if you don't want to shop it don't trap it you know I mean shit like that I

Mikey:

just like the idea that all these people have this in their head that they have two things one the government like we can't trust government because it's a piece of shit and they're like all corrupt and data but then they also you know there's this massive conspiracy theory where like you know the government is in on everything and they're controlling everything I just think people have way too high of an opinion of government like I think government is great because it like takes care of a lot of shit. But also government does not have it shipped together enough to be all of these conspiratorial things that they you think that they are like they can barely function as it is so the idea that there's this big you know, overwhelming conspiracy and then plus that Hillary Clinton's drinking baby blood and their trick you know, all these things it's just wow, you've been watching too many movies be what kind of fucking mushrooms are you eating because your imagination is wonderful. And it's just it's just not that deep bro it's just it's the virus put a fucking mask on get vaccinated shut the fuck up

Jeff:

and in the in the in the historic words of Uncle Joe Biden stupid son of a bitch Can I play that clip real quick cuz I want to hear him say it you mind

Anthony:

please go up his show we're

Mikey:

right on yeah here and here in the funny Joe swear is when he

Jeff:

said this to Fox Peter Doocy when he asks Do you think inflation is a political liability in the midterms

Mikey:

by this was on a hot mic right?

Jeff:

I don't know if it was a hot mic. I think it might have been a hot mic that's a great essay. It's a great ash What a stupid son of a bitch

Mikey:

yeah, he said I kind of back from the mic I think he thought that it wasn't paces outbursts What

Jeff:

a stupid son. I'm

Anthony:

glad he said it. And he said it could be tight Yeah, because we tight cuz it's true. The Republicans are gonna bang them on inflation. Like you fuck this up. Mm hmm. Yeah, good thing inflation jobs like they probably gonna try to take them hammering them in the midterms and y'all have accounted I don't I'm not signed to any democratic party about how the Democrats oppose Swiss

Mikey:

cheese. That's true. We've been bringing the butter knife to a gunfight for years Yeah, forever it's amazing.

Anthony:

I mean, I'm not saying that to be funny but I mean like I said, like I don't trust any like of the crazy Republicans like y'all like Dell just like like Marjorie green Taylor whatever like our knees and like say she got elected office and she and she's on some other planet that's just not here yet. But there but there are no I got a strong back kind of Democrats that pop Amelie into mind besides maybe AOC Yeah, outside of that the rest of them are just like um, well, we're going to do like, Y'all y'all y'all they have embarked back in two years like since in Ghana they just let it slide and Republican just carrying on the same nonsense the same thing conspiracies about what happened January 6, and they still going on with a stolen election. And y'all just like the facts of the facts like No, y'all need some like this exact why I couldn't run for office my name fucking shoot me in the face because I'll be there everyday barking good, right. If there's no one that stands up for us, like how the hell you gonna stand up for the country won't stand up for yourself? Yeah,

Mikey:

we need and we need more people like that. It's amazing. I mean, it's I'm jealous of the Republicans sometimes because they just a can get in whoever they want. They can get the craziest. You have more detail at Marjorie Taylor green. That's the wildest conspiracy theorist, bullshit artist, and she still stays in office, she got elected and can stay in. You know, we had I mean, two really great Democrats that we lost were Al Franken and Anthony Weiner. And these were like two people who did dumb shit. They didn't have like, you know, the best, best decision making brains, but, but they were like Bulldog Democrats. You know, they really got shit done. But, you know, and if they were Republicans that the shit that happened to them would never have been enough to get them out of office. Republicans can do anything. They're bulletproof.

Jeff:

What do you feel about this Russia versus Ukraine? Shouldn't should we mind our own business? Or how do you feel about us sending Ukraine some weapons and shit? Fucking endless

Anthony:

I'm gonna I'm telling you do not fight a war in Russia. We learned a lesson How do you pick a country do not fight a war in Russia?

Jeff:

Unless it's possible

Mikey:

Yeah, fuck all that.

Anthony:

They just need to spit in the fucking face.

Mikey:

We just need to support our war machine man we got we've got all these war contractors that are you know, they got to build more weapons got to put them somewhere so you got to you know check are interesting. That's it. That's a hard fight that we shouldn't be in. too messy.

Anthony:

That's why no one ever overturns Russia man. You've seen the size of that place. Yeah, like it's it takes forever to fly to the center of Russia to fly out you can't put troops there. Yeah, maybe gonna fight you for five like five months and pull you out like it's getting too cold. We'll see in April no fucking sick a war. I don't know I have a login first place

Mikey:

now we shouldn't be in anything. I don't think we should be in a defensive stance at all points I think.

Anthony:

Yeah, I mean I'm not a flower child but I mean I have older like relatives like great uncle films before I went to Vietnam and he came back there was never the same to not that she didn't me I don't want I don't want war I don't necessarily want peace you just don't want to get into a conflict. Yes, my name Paul Nash between y'all. Y'all figure that out?

Mikey:

Yeah, we just we don't need to be the big brother for every country on the planet. Like we don't need to go and get into it. Like it's not our fucking fight. Yeah, and this is where you know, you get to like this is my friends that are that have kind of turned into Joe Rogan libertarian sort of guys, especially during COVID I can't roll my eyes enough when I started to hear them talk about you know that that you know, maybe we should be in a more offensive company or country we should like I should have more guns in my house. I should have you know, like Joe Rogan's got some good stuff to say and like ivermectin is like actually kind of helping people and you know, and I think we're gonna move on to a cabin in the middle of the woods and just like before you know it man, like just fucking vote for Trump. Like just stop half fasten it.

Jeff:

I was gonna ask you that if you're if you're a Joe Rogan fan, are you automatically like, wow, like, racist? Or, you know, controversial? No,

Anthony:

no, it's that whole Venn diagram thing. Yeah. Like, like, like, like, like, you can be racist in one term and you could be a Trump supporter another doesn't make them both equally possible, but there's a real possibility that there's some intersection there somewhere. So is there intersect between Trump supporters racist and Joe Rogan fans probably no, it's not a big one but there is an absolute did

Jeff:

it was the same three sort of connect death apart. There was a saying that said you're not racist if you're a Trump. Wait, what was it? Some about

Mikey:

your something like like, not all Trump supporters are racist, but all race are

Jeff:

Trump supporters. Correct. There we go. You said it. Yeah. That was the way I wanted.

Mikey:

Yeah, I mean, it does. It kind of fits. You know, it's like it's like the what is it? Not all bugs are late. I just like to show about, like, not all beetles are bugs, but all those or something like that, or beetles are bugs that will all be in every go. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's true, like about the racist thing, because it's like, Nah, man, there's plenty of fucking you know, liberals that are that are I mean, I think everybody has racism in them for sure. But there's, you know, if you're saying like, not all Trump supporters are Klan members, but all Klan members on some borders, I'm gonna go ahead and go with like, Yeah, that's probably true. That's an affiliation that I think I can believe in.

Anthony:

It was called in school proofs. Yeah, let me give you three things. If this if A then B, then B, then C. But a doesn't necessarily mean me but B doesn't mean C like wait, wait, wait, hold on. Wait.

Mikey:

What's it? It's like tautology, like when people say like, Well Trump can do anything in his base will support him right? That's his, their his base. They're gonna support anything that he does like this is where he's created such a calcified and you know, this is where what worries me about Alex Jones and Joe Rogan and you know even Glenn Beck back in the day, you know, people that support them, support them no matter what happens it's it's a non critical group of people. Fucking Tucker.

Jeff:

What about this one? Tucker? Who I love

Anthony:

anyone here fucking Oh, to punch himself. Oh, bad man. His face is just hittable.

Mikey:

Yeah, it's I feel bad punch in and on some level because he looks like a seven year old and a suit. Look, I feel like he's a child. Just a puffy child. That's like I got my own TV show.

Anthony:

It looks very litigious. No, like, like you touch me out. He seemed like

Mikey:

his family's the swans family I think right. I don't know Swanson's? I think it is it's the frozen dinners

Anthony:

and TV dinners were

Jeff:

Yeah. When you look at the sodium content on them sheets, you die at VIP. They haven't

Mikey:

even eaten a lot of those lately if you notice he's been swelling outside load on salt. Oh,

Jeff:

yeah, I got when I got heat. Yep. All black people hate Eminem, but Eminem does not hate all black people.

Mikey:

That doesn't work on

Jeff:

you I have a stat about Eminem real quick for and

Anthony:

it doesn't work his best friend black everybody. No friends of black. Nobody all black people for Mac

Jeff:

nevermind Yeah. Yeah, but I guess I guess it Eminem is the only artist to sell 200,001st week and four separate decades about them apples like he's like the only white person I know. Wait a minute.

Mikey:

And, and Jeff's like, Hey, man, I've got a stat for you about about Eminem. Here it is. Hold on. Eminem is the only rapper who's the best rapper of all. time because he's the best and because he's the best. And guess what? It's a real statistic I promise.

Anthony:

And I had coffee this morning for breakfast all things are equal now. Fuck about that way

Mikey:

I am not. If you ever want me to bring on a bunch of my other white buddies who don't like Eminem, I can call them up at any point.

Anthony:

Okay, so Dre put out this thing on Instagram on March Madness versus anybody and the first person that like said that they wanted to do was ti now Ti is known because he has he been barking at a bit for a very long time. He's going to lose Eminem but he's not going to get smoked that's the weird thing he ain't gonna get no like cuz yeah actually has a lot of hits like at a particular time like when it comes to the king of the south like alright, you earn it yeah there's a lot going on the time but a minute like everybody's the whole thing like you know ti has hits Eminem has nukes Yeah cuz like cuz cuz M doesn't necessarily have to do a song he could just do shit he's featured on it and like I'm good to go. Yeah, to like, let me GIAC is going to live your life shit, which nobody like alright, cool, man. Guesses back?

Mikey:

I can't even name one ti song.

Anthony:

Oh, Jeff can come on Jeff run them off me.

Mikey:

I mean, I could. The only thing I know about Ti is that he had his daughter's hymen checked by a doctor to make sure she was out fuck that. My

Jeff:

favorite ti song is called Eleague go check it out. He spits spits on that le and my favorite ti verse of all time is the one that he did with Jay and weighing in them and Kanye on that swagga jacket share the swagger like us joint to me that's one of the hottest verses that is day that's one of the hottest verses of all time you go see we play GZ for the birth play can use it for diversity. Controversy on my vs picture perfect. Come on. Is it the Battle of COVID in February with extraordinary swag, he said it's top five to me. It

Anthony:

is the top I like it the best. No, that's

Jeff:

verse. I don't know if it's the best guest verse but it's a top five verse of all time for me of all time. Yeah,

Mikey:

saying a lot. Go listen to that shit, bro. Yeah, I mean, I've heard it. I don't know. He just doesn't stack up for me. I'm like your racism bro. Why

Jeff:

is because he's southern. Southern accent like I was not good like, ti Oh, you Yeah, easy. He's not good.

Mikey:

I mean, he's better than like my plumber at rapping maybe but like no yo your

Jeff:

wall and you I just don't like his music very much. I understand if I'm wrong. I'm not good. You're wrong. To me. It's the two best rappers in the south ever.

Mikey:

Rather than out better than Andre 3000

Jeff:

I'm not going to hear what you guys would say doesn't have material Andre doesn't put out material man.

Mikey:

What the fuck are you talking about? You mean solo stuff? He

Jeff:

doesn't have any soul. He does a feature verse once a year every couple years.

Mikey:

He is the most classic albums of all time without cast. You then be

Anthony:

full of artist Oh crazy.

Jeff:

Fine. Those are the top three southern rappers to me I just

Mikey:

texted you the other day about his last verse on the criminaI yeah that fuck that verse. Bucks

Anthony:

rocks my mom walks in bands when count the 10 meet the twin do band Welcome to the line then get our man comprehend I can send myself so you go out and tell a friend send all depends on what you believe in their faces but to make it that's a hard thing to ram man. That man took 45 seconds. Oh yeah. And I like and I like ti but that's a bad match. But then Eminem the only one that could probably functionally go against him is either be elite of the elite or Buster that's really good. Hmm. Because because people are terrified of Buster. What

Mikey:

do you mean the elite like Jay or or NAS?

Anthony:

Jay NAS Wayne Drake.

Mikey:

Cole. Yeah,

Jeff:

those guys even Kanye. He has 20 hits.

Mikey:

I think the thing was different though.

Anthony:

He has such a weird career because it's it's the producer part. It's the old Kanye then it's the new Kanye

Jeff:

Yeah, I'm not fucking what right and he working on Donda to which you know I'll pass will be hard pass for me.

Anthony:

No, he got he got up acting like the fucking hurt woman in a relationship and just let let his his ex girl Beeman didn't cross the street from her. Yeah, and I think now he's spreading rumors like Pete got ageism shit and then come on again.

Mikey:

To Pete Davidson. That dude. Like he is every one of us as a seven year old like living our best dreams ever just let go dude have his moment. David gangi do to get the

Jeff:

brunt Davis is the goat bro.

Anthony:

Yeah, dog. Oh, you got to be as tall and funny and you can clean up.

Mikey:

That's that dude's packing a huge dick. Let's just be real. My wife can't get over. She's like he must have the biggest hog

Anthony:

it's a table like this.

Mikey:

Yeah, I'm here.

Jeff:

I just got to put it over.

Mikey:

Yeah, don't look at my face so much. Just look at the deck.

Anthony:

Like he puts his hands in his pocket but don't ring the doorbell.

Mikey:

Alright, I'm home

Anthony:

like a piece of great guy. I bet he is. Last

Jeff:

now before we move on any last words on this Joe Rogan's show before I move on,

Anthony:

Dave dumbshit Joe your riches fuck your USC broadcasts it like you really don't need to be spreading this bullshit man but you're gonna keep on doing it man because he looks like he's mainly me the fuck out of it man apparently black people out of it this period and just don't say anything about us. We're good

Mikey:

and and Joe Rogan listener stopped getting your fucking health care advice from like one of the lower cast members on News Radio. Fuck that dude.

Anthony:

Go to a doctor. Get a checkup a colonoscopy get stuff sorted out. You might you might have cancer and gas and you don't want to do it.

Mikey:

Take a look. Yeah, I start peeing in your mouth though. See if that works. Trigger on pig. Yeah.

Anthony:

Nice and warm, salty. Mm hmm. electrolytes.

Jeff:

I will come back I want to talk a little bit about joey badass and also the game.

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Jeff:

Yeah. They represent a culture to represent the culture podcast I went back man I want to talk about this game. The game is list so the game recently put out his list of top 50 MCs that are alive. Let me run them down real quick. He got popped in.

Anthony:

Timeout timeout. Why do they always make that teaching? But someone should just do a dead list and alive list. Stop doing that. Just say your favorite rappers like alright, we

Jeff:

get in an intensive care nobody's

Mikey:

qualifying. Nobody's qualifying that Shakespeare's dead when they talk about their favorite playwrights like ever William Shakespeare fuck that dude he's did

Jeff:

I cannot when I run it over let me run it down right he saw He saw he's from the west coast so it's no surprise he has pop number one. Okay, fine. Jay Z number two he has Biggie number three Snoop Dogg again from the West Coast. We'll find Snoop Dogg number four. Even though Snoop Dogg shouldn't be in anybody's top five but okay, he got Kanye This is where's the sleeve starts fucking out for me. He got Kanye number five. Drake number six. Eminem. Seven. Nas eight DMX nine Lil Wayne 10. So let me get this straight. Snoop Dogg. Kanye West and Drake are all better than Eminem and NAS and Wayne and DMX. And really, yeah,

Mikey:

yeah.

Anthony:

Well, according to him the truth

Jeff:

can I keep going?

Anthony:

Yeah. Run. Oh,

Jeff:

yes. Yeah, number 11. Is ti then we got ice cube.

Mikey:

No Q tip. Oh, that's cute tip. Yeah,

Anthony:

no, it's yeah, it's I'm pretty sure it's got a

Mikey:

tip. It says tip it doesn't say Tip

Anthony:

Tip. No cue in front of it.

Mikey:

I think that's cute. You don't think it's cute Tip

Anthony:

Tip. Like not all cues are tips and not all tips are racist. That's racist. Tip.

Jeff:

Tip.

Mikey:

What is it? So what does that say that says that says Tip

Jeff:

Tip Tip Tip. This name is Tip Eris. Tip. Sherpa tip.

Mikey:

We got a call. I'll call game about this and see if you met cute tipper tip.

Jeff:

Tip Tip that's like luda, Chris on the song with Tiana saying I pee? Yeah, he was like he was like,

Mikey:

No, you want this to be

Jeff:

legit. So please get off the tip of my day.

Mikey:

Anyway, that's funny. That's a good line.

Jeff:

ludicrous said that on a song with Tip anyway, then we IceCube Andre 3000 at 1350 cent at 14 That's crazy to me. Lauryn Hill 15 Okay, LL Cool J S 16

Anthony:

he called back that Lauren Okay, hello Cool J though, should be above Lauren but I'm just

Jeff:

saying Snoop Kanye and Drake are above Eminem NAS Lauryn Hill and LL Cool J and rock him he has Rakim 17 He has Kendrick at 18 He's from the West Coast. He has he has Kendrick at 18 and he has canon MC This is where he starts while and right now he has camera at 19 Then he has Jada is Cameron better to Jada kiss than Jedi kiss

Anthony:

any of you guys know so? Yes

Mikey:

camera what we're talking about? Yes. Dressing. He's better dressing.

Jeff:

No, we're talking about rapping This is a rap list. Yes.

Anthony:

Isn't it yet? Yes.

Jeff:

camera on and 19 Jada kiss at 20 then check this out. He has met the man at 21 and I love met the man. He's my favorite rapper of all time. Fair rap. I have no problem with Method Man. But then he has like Ghostface Ray Quan and Redman in the 40s You can't have met the man at 21 and have Ghostface Ray Quan and Redman who are considered better rappers and him in the 40s Let's keep going. He has Pepsi at 20 janitors list Pepsi at 22. Yeah, but it could be a trash it could be your opinion could be opinion. Oh no, that's true. I get shit on time for having my opinion. Germ killing me. Wow. Okay, well, this is why Pepsi is 22 Scarface is 23 to short 24 Again, these are you got a lot of West Coast and Midwest guys on him. What's new

Mikey:

with the other thing is I think I feel like he went in clumps. Like he was like thinking about Pepsi. And then he was like, Oh, I'm thinking about Scarface that makes me think of to sure that makes me think of a 40 like it seems like they're in like lumps and clumps. Yep,

Jeff:

they're all negative is he 40s 25 Then he got Busta Rhymes. Slick Rick, Master P. 28. Gucci. Gucci Mane is 29 Jeezy is 30 Rick Ross is 31 Future Big Boy J Cole. Nelly Nelly. Nelly shouldn't be on anybody's list. EIO

Anthony:

super good Nelly matter for rear for a minute there. We'll get to

Jeff:

the man that said I'm a sucker for cornrows and manicure toes. Fendi Capri pants a minute he said manicure toes he immediately is eliminated from any topless for me. Why? What's a manicure toe? What's a manicure toe? Goddamnit there's no such

Mikey:

thing. Oh, yeah. Look, it's funny though. Maybe check it he has

Jeff:

a ludicrous at 36 ludicrous. Your Nelly is better than ludicrous. Keep going then he has Big Pun Big Pun at 37 C This is blasphemy to me. I understand black people don't don't value Bitcoin as much as US Latinos do I get that? It's the same argument with Eminem. Okay, I get it. But to put Big Pun at 39 He's highly regarded as one of the greatest of all time bro

Anthony:

keep going. We'll finish it then we'll we're gonna run with a run through the shit that's what's

Jeff:

so big putting a big one at 37 actually eight ball is 38 been B's 39 Little chemists 40 Fab Oh, that he because he got some errors that he entertained. He flipped the fan. So yes, Nicki Minaj 41 and fab 42. That's crazy. Then you got Meek Mill. So this is back to the thing that Mike said he thought about Meek Mill thinking about Nicki. He was the old Meek Mill and he put it right after you know, I'm saying then you got Ghostface at 44 Ray Quan at 45 is blasphemy. Redman at 46 Twist 47 Nipsey Hussle at 48 Uncle Luke at 49 and kill a mic at 50. That's the game's list. And I don't agree with any of

Mikey:

it. Any of it. He also I like the fact that it pointed out earlier that number 4142. He has fab and then Nicki Minaj. And then he has arrows saying that he would switch them. I like the fact that he was you know, thoughtful enough about the left list that he was like, Ooh, no, no, no, I can't I can't say that. Those Those are positions that they should be in.

Anthony:

Okay, so Alright, so we'll try to break down this down. Alright, so you have your top 10 of POC, Jay big snoop. Yay, Drake, Eminem, Nas DMX, Lil Wayne. Alright, so that's 10.

Jeff:

That's 10. And I respect that. The order is crazy to me.

Anthony:

It's going to be more West Coast guys. No, this is like, so you're not gonna feel that Ellis was too short. He 40 Stuff like that. Because for him growing up, I did this. There were key to his development. Where's it? Where's that? Tim? He's 12 Okay, nice. Well, so so if you're, if you're taking that 10 Just that 10 Who's going out and who's coming in?

Jeff:

Now it has to be higher. Eminem has to be higher.

Anthony:

No, but it was in 10 Okay, of that 10 Who doesn't deserve to be in that? 10

Jeff:

I would probably Say I would probably say con you're gonna come out and we'll probably say Kanye.

Anthony:

Alright, so Kanye comes out who goes in just the hard part.

Jeff:

You mean somebody that's out of the top 10

Anthony:

Right? That says Tim, like if you don't like to order budget that's the same. So who you take an out of

Jeff:

town he has rock Kim ll Lauryn Hill Andre are out of the top 10 And I think all of them are better than Kanye Drake and Snoop. I'm saying I'll take you up out of the top 10 I'll take Kanye and I'll take Drake out of the top 10 I'll leave Biggie I'll leave Jay Z Ali POC. I'll leave Eminem NAS DMX Lil Wayne That's fine. Snoop Kanye and Drake should not be in a top 10 So I'll take those three out. And if I go down his list, you could put andreyko cube you could put Lauren you could put ll you could put rock him you could put Jada

Anthony:

no no but so you're gonna take out three so what three you want to put in there? I'll put on your list. Only Snoop Kanye and Drake data here they're out of that. So who's the three that's going to replace them?

Jeff:

I could put Lauren LL Cool J and then it could be anybody could be Jada kiss it could be rock him

Anthony:

but if the 10 like this is like the standard so I would just be throwing some fucking party in there. Like on his list like like care Kara? isn't even here yet.

Mikey:

No crazy this is the thing he doesn't have. He doesn't have anybody who's a foundational artist. But did you see what this is? So he put this out in response to funk flexes 50 Because it's him funk flex and then Ebro Yeah, who's that again?

Anthony:

Is it be the radio?

Mikey:

Okay. Okay, I don't know him and then yeah, so they were all putting out their top 50 list. I mean, funk Flex is 50 is like pretty fucking all over the place to his is gonna be more East Coast oriented. I mean, he's got fucking Remy Ma on in a top 50 of all time, get the fuck out of here is Christ which has got Remy Ma 25

Jeff:

But if you don't have if you don't have like ARS if you don't have like Big Daddy Kane, slick, Rick, maybe you rap on your top 50

Mikey:

Sure, I mean, or, you know, Grandmaster Caz Melly Mel. I mean, these are people were talking to all time foundational hours. I don't know. I also don't understand if they were saying so funk flex specifically says top 50 Living MCs which is great. And then And then he says skill level parentheses bars, and then he says body of work slash impact. And then he also has some weird thing where he like he says Drake, and then he's got a thing that says questionable pin. Yeah, because then he has con

Jeff:

because people write for him. But that's my argument. What kind Oh, so just you don't write your own shit. And we suspect that you don't like Dr. Dre for example, then you have no business on the list. If there's any whisper of you somebody writing for you, then you cannot be on the list automatically. That's that's my take. Even if

Mikey:

you're even if it's just about lyrics, like even if it's about like the way that you rhyme. That's kind of cheat. You got to write all your own shit. You got

Jeff:

to write your shit to be in a category of the best ever.

Mikey:

Yeah. Why?

Jeff:

Because Puff Daddy has some of the best but it's Dr. Dre and Puff Daddy have some of the best ever writing for them. Jay Z NAS Jada kids they write for these guys. So they do they deserve to be on the list. Because some of their bars are dope. No, because Jada kiss Jay Z and NAS wrote them for you. They on the list. You're not Jabba.

Anthony:

I've always told you I hate Dr. Dre as a rap. Oh, me too. I hate him as a city. I mean, the

Jeff:

MCS can take for him writing for him. Yeah,

Mikey:

but who cares did he could take the Diddy could take the greatest verse of all time, and he then he would say it and it would sound like shit because he's terrible.

Anthony:

Like, like, like Dre had the best writers writing form, but that still didn't impress me his production over his own shitty wrapping made dope, like, like they're gonna have like, the whole Superbowl thing, right? All the guys are bringing it and all of them have been produced by Dre. Of course, yeah. Yeah, it's like, I know Dre is gonna be there but like, everybody would want to save I produced and that's why he hand picked them regarding

Mikey:

MGB two though.

Anthony:

Did he produce? No,

Jeff:

mostly did he write did he mostly he must

Mikey:

produce something? Yeah,

Anthony:

but she works but she's she's a genius at Lillia universe star she works with anybody that you want, right?

Mikey:

But that was but that was the whole reason for this Super Bowl half the halftime show the right wasn't it Dre it's it's curated by Dre. He brought Yeah, so that makes sense then and he paid for it. A lot of it some of it

Anthony:

oh shit he wrote her biggest producer biggest hit what? Family Affair that's

Jeff:

the one she probably perform

Anthony:

like I'm producing even play my

Jeff:

only get what they only get 15 minutes so they all only gonna play like one hit each from each person.

Anthony:

Like it's the halftime shows lose about 25 minutes. No, it's but no, it's any longer for the Superbowl because you got to do that and commercials and so on and so forth, and yada yada yada. But no, um, but back to this list. Drake has. I'm actually okay with what Drake and Snoop had to come out. I don't believe in any top 10 list of any If you're not going to have a foundational piece in it somebody has to be there yeah like it has to be either rock him or ll or something to that degree because everyone else in that list their direct descendants of that person

Mikey:

you don't you don't look at NAS as foundational he's second generation because because because not because not had it before from Kuji rap Yeah No it's true foundation

Jeff:

was 80s 70s and 80s

Anthony:

Right yeah. Right like like late 80s like the early 80s Pretty damn it so basically like someone like ll someone like Brock Kim some like who would you rap someone like K wonder Mike, right now he's my man. Like you can't have that lift without having that foundation piece. It's almost like if you Yeah, the greatest wrestlers ever and you got to put on like maybe the guy that rubberband man you have to put Hogan you have to put foot you have to put those guys that set the thing before all the guys jumped over it yeah that's it but your list is invalid if you don't put the like your house and it'll be sad if you don't put the right brick down and rock him that ELLs that care versus ones that Run DMC Slick Rick like all the all the guys that we love now are basically offsets of that jiggy fly flashy shit that Jay Z does he got it from slick for that thought conscious stuff that that Kendrick and Cole does they care it's one that they're all seated from that tree. Yeah, so for them to have him dominated like alright, alright, you might not know your history as much as I thought you might have. But but but but snooping snooping Drake come out. I have no slides and slides and who the other person I was slapping slides in Rakim I probably. Yeah, I'm cool with that. Oh, rockin I'm alright with that. Hip hop. Hip Hop me Hip Hop without How

Jeff:

does he now how does he not have K RS on his list? Bro?

Anthony:

Like at all are slick, right? Yeah,

Mikey:

does that second dude that I didn't know the the radio guy, old man bro. His list is tighter.

Anthony:

Oh man with the fact that you don't have care rest want to hear but you got twist them like come on, twist

Mikey:

them. But I mean, also the bigger part for me is that do we really give a fuck about what the game thinks? Like, I don't the game. He means nothing to me. Like I like I like to have his songs. I think he's you know, I don't know. He's just an angry fucking ugly trash rapper.

Jeff:

like way more than

Anthony:

man. Like it's the whole thing is like, you know who not putting up these longest the greatest rappers of all time? Your biggest fucking stars because they don't care.

Mikey:

Well, I was gonna say, you know, he's not putting out these top 50 Is anybody in the top? 50 They're like, right? Yeah, but I don't know. I'm good as fuck. Do you notice how the game isn't on his own list? Worth?

Anthony:

As a matter of fact, I gotta lower up some shit right now. Jeffrey, I would like for you to make the case for big point as a top 20 rapper.

Jeff:

He's in my top five make he's in my top five. We did a whole episode about that.

Anthony:

But I said we're gonna go back to this one day. That's why I'm going back to this. Make your argument clear. I'm not going to counterpoint I just want people to understand his impact in the land community and why haven't right so

Jeff:

he's the first and only rapper splatting rapper to go platinum first Spanish rapper to ever go platinum. So we start there. His wordplay and has

Mikey:

already jumped him to like No 35 Right.

Jeff:

His breath control his wordplay to me for a dude that was obese morbidly obese is unmatched because even Biggie you could hear him breathing and struggling you know I'm saying like yeah, you know, he was big but when punny and pun spits in a way where like he doesn't waste any syllables any words there's no pauses in between he's just like then in a data data to the data that you know what I mean is just straight that in the middle we're Little Italy little like there's no interruptions and you know you don't pauses he doesn't stop to breathe at all, which was very impressive for a man of his size. You know what I'm saying? And just the way he put words together like even today, like maybe a guy like Eminem, but the the way he was putting words together like this is unmatched bro. Just that alone. It's tough. Yeah, it's racist. That's fine. He's reverse racist against anybody who don't look like him.

Mikey:

We can just say racist No, no

Anthony:

the man that always meant to Eminem but like I said I get tired his Rap God bullshit. Like I know you can do it and your rap bathroom brief well

Jeff:

write don't write but fuck that pun was doing that but actually saying shit and telling you stories or whatever doing that you know I mean that whole that whole type of flow without pausing at all. At a smooth 500

Anthony:

pounds

Jeff:

yo he was like yo name I know

Mikey:

that. We like that to qualify you to be one of the best rappers if that feels like a Special Olympics qualification. He was morbidly obese but could still breathe.

Jeff:

Puts you in the top 20 immediately.

Anthony:

Like like Jeff give him credit for his disability.

Mikey:

He couldn't get up a two flights of stairs. But that fucker couldn't say a whole verse without passing out.

Jeff:

Like court day being able to spit with a list. get credit for

Anthony:

how you stop big big pump so good getting stairs

Mikey:

yeah put them on a treadmill

Anthony:

yeah give give give give four steps let's let's wrap now my

Mikey:

my true puff law anyone in the middle of

Anthony:

that little hole a little Italy is middle middle middle class

Mikey:

I'm thinking about Little Italy because I've got a Makati stuck in my throat right now

Anthony:

I was thinking of a master plan oh that's not me hold up

Jeff:

and then finally his grammar is grammar bro yeah and he says that I saw like name another Rama with my kind of grammar. Like the dude was a beast what words yo

Anthony:

grammar I say grandma

Mikey:

grammar because grandma was

Jeff:

obviously he doesn't pronounce the RS though but he says you know name another Rama with my kind of grammar.

Mikey:

Yeah

Anthony:

most def kit most

Jeff:

and neither neither. And neither of them on this list by the way. They're not on games list. Which is crazy to me too cute.

Mikey:

Yeah, cuz he's a dumbass.

Anthony:

Yeah, cute. It should be the

Jeff:

Deaf common. Come on.

Mikey:

All right. That's because they can read and he's pissed about it.

Anthony:

Anyway, yeah. About that, and they don't understand that. That reading is like an under rated skill. Like you get kind of pissed off and read like an adult who can't read. Like fuck you mean you know whose

Jeff:

list I'm curious to see. Speaking about literacy. Oh, Floyd Money Mayweather Mayweather I want to see what his

Mikey:

list was like. I want to see his handwriting first of all Floyd.

Anthony:

Floyd gonna tell it to somebody needed to go on paper. He not gonna write nothing. Yeah, I

Mikey:

was gonna say he's gonna be like, this was the most This was actually the most impressive part for me about these lists. Is that so it's the game I'm sorry, what's radio dude's name again? Ebro. Ebro a bro. He bros handwriting is beautiful. It's like super architectural, and then funk flex made like a whole, like meat or like image or whatever. But like, I'm actually just No, his is like, it looks like a party flyer. Like it looks like it says like a concert flyer. But the games handwriting's actually it's really succinct and like it's like great handwriting. So that's the thing I'm most impressed about. Is their penmanship.

Anthony:

Floyd Mayweather, Snoop Dogg one G

Mikey:

as an eight in there.

Anthony:

For like Dr. phonetically spelled Lisbon, and we got to spell it out. Dre. Dre why like this mob puck gear man, Dre. Dre.

Mikey:

Dre needs to know cursive when you can just punch?

Anthony:

Yeah, and just just I got to tell somebody like yo typing number one Tupac next to

Jeff:

or like, like, Oh, this guy's name day when he's misspelled murder. He was like, it's our D R E in a song and an x ray, m u r d e r e. This is that in a song.

Mikey:

But this is my favorite shit is like the like when? Well there's a couple of them. One is what you just said about when Delhi talked about having manicured toes which is it should be petting pedicured toes and then fucking Oh my God, what's his name? To that and Buddha YG who's a blood has a song called cool, calm and collected except he's a blood so he can't say seas. And so his song is bull bomb and collective collective. But he doesn't say elected. It's elective. So it's cool, common collective and like somewhat like the like the recording engineer was like this dude's gonna fucking shoot me in the face. If I say if I correct him on this. I'm just gonna let him go with it. I love it.

Anthony:

Like people get mad at Tupac by the Hennessy and enemies

Jeff:

What if you would have spelled it with a k instead of a C and it would have just been a KKK?

Mikey:

The clan the clans really up on all of his new music they're like hey YG No No.

Jeff:

i So final thoughts on this game list before I move on them?

Mikey:

The games trash

Anthony:

Good idea. Good content bad execution. Terrible this guy.

Jeff:

I want to end the show.

Mikey:

I was gonna do I was gonna do the thing that he that he does on that 50 cents on where goes ah. But I didn't want to scream when you guys hear us?

Jeff:

Yeah, and I end the show with this double XL article. The headline is, Joey badass says he doesn't want to ejaculate during sex so he can preserve his lifeforce. First of all, does that even mean? What does

Mikey:

that that's some Chinese medicine shit, dude. My wife's a Chinese medicine doctor. Yeah, and it's, I think is the idea of it? Well, it's the idea that I'm probably gonna fuck, I know, I'm probably right, I'm probably gonna fuck it up. But Jing is your life energy. And there's this idea that like your life energy is kind of contained in your comm or it contained in your semen like you and I think kind of the idea that you only get a certain amount of ejaculation that kind of in the lifecycle. And so there's this idea of preserving it in order to like protect and preserve your energy. But I mean, dude, that's a big thing. That's don't fighters do that and stuff for like football players. Well, yeah. You know, I mean,

Jeff:

how many Gentlemen, I want to start counting.

Mikey:

I know I've been I think I might have cooled 7 million So

Anthony:

what the fuck we have a guy or Karma oh my god

Jeff:

oh boy here we go let me get this let me get this right I'm

Mikey:

just gonna blast myself to suicide

Jeff:

so preserving semen makes you let live longer Is that Is that correct?

Mikey:

She I don't know if it's about that but I mean aren't there's boxers and stuff that don't that won't like jerk off or come before they want to

Unknown:

write for fight but after that then it goes out and go nuts no pun

Jeff:

yes why Mike Tyson lost his first match because he was out the night before with with Bobby Brown sleeping with all types of hoes

Anthony:

man man ain't never stopped Mike before yeah I think he's all right Mike Mike Mike whenever you're like this easy money I can go fuck 10 people tonight dude in five minutes. Overtraining I just

Mikey:

like the idea of being a bee. Imagine being a fly on the wall with Mike Tyson and Bobby Brown at that night the Holy shit.

Jeff:

It was a lot of drugs. It was a lot of code being passed around.

Mikey:

Yeah, Mike Tyson punching that shit up Bobby's nose

Anthony:

Come on. Come on. Come on. Joey calm down. Saving money. Man what you call it was a cute little word to call it in my gene JinJin our script my gene Where the fuck are pleased to think you know what they call it? What? Kevin perform a gene right away.

Jeff:

Kevin Gates calls this semen retention. Thanks, Kev. Yeah,

Anthony:

are you gonna give me your trial word retention? Shut the fuck up. With it hold back hold back my semen.

Jeff:

This is what he said he prefers to be the dominant one in the bedroom. But he's I think he doesn't want to ejaculate during sex.

Mikey:

Well, this voice he sounds like a dreamboat dude.

Jeff:

He goes this is direct quote. I rather not bust a nut period he said because I would rather preserve my lifeforce when a man ejaculates there's a lot of things that leave your body there's blood cells there's testosterone energy, you get depleted He further explained they say is like an equivalent to running 20 miles when you bust a nut Yeah, but it comes back though after you rest a nap you wake up and you re energize you know

Mikey:

fuck what and your your balls are like one of the busiest things on your body like they're they're making sperm as fast as they can because they want to recreate

Anthony:

you should have saved the ship of Valentine's Day

Jeff:

fuck these get this and women are gonna like this one sentence this is a quote he said your intention should be to please your mate. Oh shit I lost here we go I want to I don't want to misquote him this way you lost it. I lost it because I hear God he said you lost it he let me try again. He said your intention should be to please your partner. And don't release no semen. Well, I

Mikey:

was gonna say that like at least he's not like fucking Khalid in the sand. He doesn't go down in his wife or whatever. It doesn't want to please his wife. Like he's actually kind of coming at it from a good perspective in that he's like, I don't know he's only suffering himself so

Jeff:

Louisiana rabbis believe whatever you want to believe. He also explained that withholding semen will help heal the central nervous system and heal your brain

Anthony:

she No no going to sleep well

Mikey:

yeah, that refractory periods the greatest thing ever.

Anthony:

But said that basically by God we

Jeff:

realize that the human body is regenerative. Right

Anthony:

Yeah, will tell you anything to get laid now.

Mikey:

Yeah, but I like the idea that he's he's he's like not going to derive all that much. I mean, he's not going to drive the biggest amount of pleasure from the from the sexual experience so maybe Joey badass should be teaching us all a little bit of something about selflessness

Anthony:

teach me shit going on a woman I give great hidden I'm very unselfish. I have no problem with that. So I'm not trying to hear her savior come it's still on the bus. It's supposed to go out like I'm not supposed to. It's not a bank. It's not a savings account. I don't hold on to get more money.

Mikey:

There's a demon in my semen. I'm trying to get that shit out my body.

Anthony:

Don't fight don't fight don't ever at all do like get to live to be like 110 but seems like no fun because 110 And I get

Mikey:

like the like the argument for eating bacon. I'm like I'd rather died. Should I live shorter and better? Yet? You know the bacon?

Anthony:

Just seems like swatting my brother. Nope, nope. No. Mo for me.

Mikey:

I jerk off while I'm eating bacon.

Anthony:

Yeah. Michael if you don't mind me both you gentlemen America. I'm gonna ask this question please here and I'm probably mentally ill. So it's a perfect time to ask. Do you wish your spouse's mutually masturbate? Definitely.

Jeff:

What do you mean like just stare at each other? Well, we're both masturbating

Anthony:

side by side like she do what she do you do what you do? No, I've never done yeah,

Mikey:

we. We call it dude. It's

Jeff:

bad, isn't it? Why not just have sex? Yeah, he's gonna watch each other masturbate. What's the point of that?

Mikey:

Sex is effort.

Anthony:

I mean, sex is effort. I'm lazy.

Mikey:

Sometimes you just want to be lazy and just do a side by side it's like no really I don't know I think

Jeff:

50 pumps count them that's what counts them if you're gonna do it somebody

Anthony:

try to hit it from the back and your back fucked up you know fun like you got you've quads and other muscles you got to balance the stable yourself like why am I struggling to cut my lower back but to give up I'm giving you the best I got like say you lay there she laid as she touches you touching you touch each other like says it's a bonding experience. Oh yeah, fun you missing

Mikey:

out. Dude, this is and I think it's the ship and I think we should be teaching it in schools. It's safe you get to learn about what other what your partner needs you can like figure out what turns them on. I think it's the best I've been out for years. mutual

Jeff:

masturbation.

Mikey:

side we caught a side by side in our house. That's what we branded it.

Jeff:

trademark that. Yeah, we did. I prefer the term mutual masturbation.

Mikey:

Eminem.

Anthony:

Like a baby. Eminem today.

Mikey:

Eminem now. I think you asked Jeff the wrong question. You asked him if him and his wife had ever done the major masturbation of him and Eminem have done? Yes, they've jerked off each other. Just like you're the greatest rapper alive. Mm hmm.

Jeff:

No, he's not even number one on my list. He's like, my top three. Number one,

Mikey:

number one in your fist. Get it?

Jeff:

from Connecticut,

Mikey:

back. Back. Yeah, It's okay though. It's a good place to end the show, I think

Jeff:

ended with a John Coltrane quote that

Mikey:

sorry, John.

Anthony:

He said the greatest jazz musicians of all time at the mutual massive Baker. He comes John Coltrane. Right.

Unknown:

He said I can't even say

Mikey:

me What is jazz? What is jazz? If not masturbation? Is a 17 minutes don't

Jeff:

ever get so big or important that you cannot hear and listen to every other person?

Anthony:

You mean like my dick can't hear you over the sounds of my dick. Is this too loud? It's too loud. This is the best locker John Coltrane told me who ended with Coltrane. I wouldn't have stayed on the mutual masturbate

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air:

So stuck-up, arrogant Ain't got long, hot songs: Best cherish it 'Cause when I drop mine, that's over: finito You payin' for your foul like a free throwbow! Now, how could a nigga think that he could see me? Other than the magazine covers or the TV? Know I sold more mixtapes than your CD You're waiting on your big break, praying you could be me

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