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Hip Hop's 50th Anniversary Concert: Celebrating Culture & Challenging Stereotypes

• Jeff and Anthony • Episode 139

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In this episode, we delve into a thought-provoking discussion sparked by Neil deGrasse Tyson's statement regarding a racial stereotype. We examine the historical context and implications of such statements, challenging misconceptions and promoting accurate understanding. Additionally, we touch upon the monumental 50th anniversary Hip Hop concert at Yankee Stadium, celebrating the cultural milestones and global impact of this influential genre. Join us as we explore the power of cultural expression, tackle important social issues, and highlight the transformative nature of Hip Hop. Tune in for an engaging conversation that promotes inclusivity, challenges stereotypes, and celebrates the rich tapestry of our diverse cultural landscape.

Topics Discussed:

  • The Roots picnic in Philadelphia
  • Hip Hop 50th anniversary concert at Yankee Stadium
  • Is Ja Morant getting suspended?
  • Scientifically speaking the white man resembles a monkey more than any other race according to Neil deGrasse Tyson

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Jeff:

Yo we hear we hear man we hear what's good

Anthony:

good nick I'm exhausted fucking means good to people

Jeff:

why we didn't record over the weekend man which was up to

Anthony:

when we recorded with the fucking roots picnic that shit was way go

Jeff:

the roots picnic be you went to both days, huh?

Anthony:

Now? Yes. Okay, so day one. I really stuck around to see Lauryn Hill's performance.

Jeff:

She was the main event for day one.

Anthony:

Yeah. And she wasn't that great. I'm gonna be honest with sad shame. But they brought out but at the end they brought out the foodies away who wait, wait, wait, wait

Jeff:

a minute. You didn't tell me that part?

Anthony:

Because I'm gonna leave it for the children again. So at the end, they bring out all of them they bring out prize and they bring out walk left.

Jeff:

Wait a minute. The she introduced them was she was all three on stage at the same time. All three on stage at the same time that they interacted they hug and kiss. Yes. Get the fuck out of here. Yes. And probably people weren't chanting shit at pries like, Oh, you're going to jail?

Anthony:

I mean, that's why when you think about it, it might be the last performance because you know, you know he goes to the bank. You might not be around a time soon. I don't know how that's gonna go. So like the things like you saw wouldn't last for him because before you know, he goes to jail for maybe eight to 10 years. And I don't know if they want to really want to do the shit in like eight to 10 years. Who knows? I still

Jeff:

go well now let's get back to the sort of concert so she finishes a bunch of songs and then she brings out prizes and Wyclef Yeah, and I'm assuming they do ready or not.

Anthony:

Maybe ready not to do food EULA and to do Killing Me Softly Yeah, those three and people went crazy. For the last three months.

Jeff:

They play them like correct like the original beats and everything. Yes, word dad. Yes. I would have loved to beat it.

Anthony:

That's a lot that's a lot they didn't play the original beats they couldn't play the rhythm piece because the rhythm be played by the root cells back in the day with a background fan. Oh the roots was playing all the beats to all the songs they were they were the background band for that part. So no question everyone else came out and did their thing and they did the whole ring imaginations beat everything else it was a fantastic dance was they had a state property reunion that's on Saturday all of them that it was good to see him though beans with with health issues washed his head I mean, but I mean like I mean, free basically like he has a gigantic like arm like it's a big vein. Like they took it out of his leg and put his arm to help like blood flow something else like that beans got one loan because of the shit he went through. I mean it look older but I mean I'm not gonna brag on it, but it was good to see him like that's that doesn't really shit so for the crowd and

Jeff:

wow for that random person was Jimmy Fallon there.

Anthony:

He might have been I don't see him like that. But that said I saw fucking Jermaine Dupri and usher just riding around like a little carton they had a little Cabana and shit like watching the shows and had security around them like it's pretty cool.

Jeff:

I mean, a cabana so All right, so that was Saturday. What was Sunday,

Anthony:

Sunday when I got there. Our Linux was well let me remind it city girls was performing and that was that was not my crowd. I was like, Y'all gonna have this is for the the young ratchet sat there in the world with no complaints because I mean, if that's your bag, that's your bag. Hardlinks came on after her. All right, can I ask off so that was good. So I really went for the last part was the J period mixtape so you know, lacto does it every year, comes out has verses over certain songs and brings out to special guests. The first one was a buster. It was somebody spliff. He did everything. He did that that better. Look at me now verse. I recorded that. He did a dangerous he did the joint from with him or I cam or I wasn't there. So let's not get too fucked up. He did all the shit you would think you would get from him. He goes off stage and then Eve comes out and everybody loses their mind. She does all her if she he does the hot boys, the hot boys remix shit, pretty much all of her hits. I remember last year, she did the show with Winston funny. And you see the diversity yet. And and then when it gets to the part everyone was seeing

Unknown:

me and I'm gonna take my time. Back they push it. Let people

Anthony:

they think that's it word for word. So that started about 715 or shows at 915. But the live mixing is around 815 I'm like well, fuck. I got a whole hour. But it got so crowded like people were trying to see the show. I didn't move where I was at, like I believed pretty much stayed around to shuffle around with people that I was thirsty. I had to pee. I've been standing what since like four o'clock my fucking ankles was killing me. Everything was sore, but everybody had it At a time I swear to God, I didn't move at all. The only thing that saved me is a dude that was, I guess one of the vendors there. He was selling like like alcoholic filters like Tallboy cat and Heineken. And now he was like, oh like how much he said 14 and said I'll pay. How many? The total board laid 24 out. I didn't get a voice.

Jeff:

That's like what? Like 3434 bottles right?

Anthony:

Oh my god, I'm thirsty so and I don't give a shit what it is. I got I got this shit like this closest what I'm gonna get

Jeff:

that's actually not a bad deal.

Anthony:

Not sure. Maybe who gives a shit? But actually didn't get Asha. Asha got his thing.

Jeff:

He did his thing.

Anthony:

You sh er er ay y mo Andy. Yes he did. Alright, so he did all of his hits. And it's a four minute recording I got it's hard to upload but I'm trying to find it. So you know how to use you got me then. That's all. So blackdog comes out he's performing that part does Erykah Badu come out? No. Okay. Jasmine Salman comes out. She did her parts. Did Jasmine Sylvan did the singing parts. And Asha was out there too. And then let's say even for Eve did her rap part on it, too. So like, oh, man, it's good to see all this shit. I sure had a wardrobe trim. But he was wearing like black leather. And he's wearing red leather. Oh, sure. So basically any any song that you would think of the Usher would have done he did it. You don't have to call confessions You Got It Bad good kisser. The thing? Like it's weird, because I have titled so when you put an usher. They used to put the songs like whichever is the most played and superstar is always number one. They put that shit on them because last they fucking mind boy. And then they do like the little wilderness shit in the beginning like I have man. Okay. And I was frustrated. It was kind of fun. The funny part was like, it was this old lady. Let's say I'm here. She's about maybe two feet in front of me. Right? I took a picture of the back of her head. That's how close she was. She had to be like, early 60s, right? She reaches into her bra and pulls out the Blizzy. And she's like, Oh, shit, but I can't move my fuck. And like if she was hitting Harley, I mean.

Jeff:

I mean, I bet there was a lot of it going on.

Anthony:

It was like a fucking Cheech and Chong concert. It was smoke everywhere, which is fine, but it's like, you want to enjoy yourself and just weed everywhere, but it's legal in PA right? I don't, but it's so many goddamn, people are going to try to arrest everybody and don't make a whole lot of sense. But I mean, I wasn't gonna argue about it. And like it is what it is like, you know, open air thing people go on smoke. So she so she hits blunt hard to the motherfucker. And didn't like somebody. So let's ask her a question. If somebody feels weird. She's like, Girl, I started choking. And I was looking at like, SeaNanners he can't can't hit it and talk you got to finish exhale. Didn't get the word though. She tried to be like mid smoke mid pool try to be Oh, cool. Like, is the 70s or some shit. And she tried to get it out. I thought she's gonna like, gag gag are everyone else around me laughing It was laughing at me because what I said to him, but yeah, he can't hit the shit and all of a sudden start talking. You got to hit it. Marinate. Exhale, did your words she tried to try to do two things at once. You can do that. And she didn't hide the mindfuck. Here like before, she was starting to like she tried to call her friend like Girl, I'm over here. She raved. She turned the light on and raises a phone. Like it's 30,000 people in this fucking apartment. She's not gonna see this fucking phone like, let this go. That's not doing drugs manner. But all in all, it's a awesome time. I don't know if I will go back next year. It's not anything against it. It's more like because he went to talk to people at the job. He was like, oh man when he was the ashram and yet, they're like, man, because I've been trying to go to Vegas to see Russia. I'm like, Alright, man. Could you have sacrificed like your feet and ankles for like a couple of hours to Senator Park and watch Usher or are you going to catch a flight to Las Vegas? Get yourself a hotel room by 20 figured out tickets to watch and perform. I say there's a fucking easy deal for me. Of course when I went down to Philly for that ships, easy money. You're not coming back next year, because this is the second second time we've ever had lOn. No one else has ever headlined twice. He's done it, I guess because of the ship with puff. But oh, that puff thing is interesting, too. He's on the second person of a headliner, Bruce, Bruce thing. And I don't know if there's anyone out there that I would be excited to go stand and see next year, if that makes any sense. Because I mean, they're they're great artists, but I don't see them. I don't see Beyonce doing that. I'm not saying that she wouldn't understand. It'd be highly unlikely. Or somebody you really, really, really want to see. Let me like let me stop. Like, if they could somehow get Kendrick, I go 1000 If they could somehow get Kendrick, I go. But I saw that No, but you know,

Jeff:

I didn't go to that but you know where I am going. On Friday, August the 11th On the day, it all began

Anthony:

as a sort of 430 dog

Jeff:

in the Bronx, New York, where it all started at Yankee Stadium. No doors open at 430. The shift starts at 6pm Hip Hop 50th anniversary live presented by Shamrock. Google Pixel, Live Nation and mass appeal. I'm going to that shit. Tickets go on sale Thursday, couple of few days from now. And remember I mentioned it before, but they hadn't released the lineup. The lineup was released today. And you mind if I read it

Anthony:

off to you? I go home and go to their hip hop's

Jeff:

50th anniversary live at Yankee Stadium featuring Run DMC Snoop Dogg. Lil Wayne, ice cube with surprise guests.

Anthony:

I hate that shit. So

Jeff:

I'm assuming that I can't expect somebody like Dre and dump type of people to show up but we can we can wish we can hope. Then we have the queens of hip hop set Eve which you just mentioned before, Lil Kim, Remy Ma. And Trina, and then it says, and more. But those are the four headliners for the women's the queen of hip hop set. I would have loved to see like fucking Lauren pop out, you know, I mean, but whatever.

Anthony:

Trina can go. Go Yeah, I'm looking at like, I'm gonna break this down. But yeah, like Trina can go Alright,

Jeff:

then they have performing live ti Okay, Fat Joe.

Anthony:

You got to pick me, but he was gonna say to continue. I mean, he's from

Jeff:

the Bronx, so you figured he'll be common? ASAP. Ferg I could do without him. EPMD Ghostface Killah killer. I guess he's the only team member is gonna probably show up. He's gonna win. He's doing shoot right now. Lupe Fiasco. Slick Rick. Then they have a pillars of hip hop set, featuring DJ Kool Herc. You know, he has to be there. Cindy Campbell is Cindy Campbell. What is he related to this? His daughter, his sister fucka. She

Anthony:

will get to it.

Jeff:

Because when I saw Cindy came alive, she must be related to Clive Campbell. Then we have Grandmaster Caz Curtis below. These are pioneers, Melly Mel, Roxanne Shante Scorpio and the Sugar Hill gang. And then it says and more. I would have loved to see KERS, his name on it, I would have loved to see rock Kim's name on it. Maybe they'll pop up, I'm assuming but

Anthony:

but that's the whole thing. They shouldn't be the and more they should be on there.

Jeff:

That's what I'm saying their names should be on there. But okay. Because maybe they're not these are the people that are probably already committed. Maybe they're still trying to get others and you know, haven't been able to I don't know. Then it says there is a legendary DJ sets. There is battle cat. Clark Kent. Mannie Fresh. And Marley ma I would have liked to see premieres on my premiere on there and I would have loved to see jazzy Jeff's name on it. But maybe they'll make a guest appearance. Who knows? But okay, all right. So let's look at those all the names that are on the on the on the banner here.

Anthony:

So doors open at 430 show starts at six Correct?

Jeff:

I'm going to says tickets start at 50. And in real small fine print. It says $50 tickets and up rose bonuses and up because I was under the impression that all tickets are gonna be $50.

Anthony:

Yes, as you were saying, you're trying to do the math. I'm like, that's not that's not capitalism. We have all these people. I say 50,000 People I figured out each is$2.5 million $2.5 million. Why would you ever have to just pay Wayne to show up? Right?

Jeff:

And that's why we're not gonna see any other members of Wu Tang. That's why we're not gonna see knives. We're not gonna see Jay Z. We're not gonna see ll we're not gonna see Lauryn Hill. You can't pay he's more focused enough to show up to this shit.

Anthony:

But I mean, the fact that it's like the hip hop 50. And from looking at it right to the four headline of the West Coast dude, I'm like, Huh? That's strange. Like Alright, so you got Snoop Dogg and cute, right? And you're thinking like, maybe maybe you can throw in like, I don't think Dre will do it. Huh? Game? Maybe game nah. So like, say you're looking at this lineup and it's kind of like it's good. But like so so you plan on being I'm guessing you're gonna get there way before doors start you're gonna get

Jeff:

I mean, you gotta find parking and all it is and then you know, yeah, I'm gonna try to get there early. Fuck that kind of traffic and all

Anthony:

this. You gotta find parking. So on a Friday, it's on a Friday. You're gonna have you're gonna hit that rush hour. You don't get it so I'm guessing you don't go to the office that day.

Jeff:

I might have to take that day off. Leave my house like I fucking 1pm get there by like two three. Hawkin walk to the venue to the stadium. Get in line.

Anthony:

Are you a buyer?

Jeff:

Not normally. No. If I see some road dope, I'm like I'm rocking it and the prices you know, consider it. I mean, I'm not gonna go in there and spend$45 on a shirt that says, you know, hip hop 50th anniversary. I'm not gonna do that. But if the prices are decent, if the shirt looks right, you know, I'll you know, fuck it. I'll

Anthony:

get it. Yeah, some dude was trying to sell me like some t shirt at the picnic yesterday. I was like, how much? He was like, 35 I like nigga. I'll give you you know, give me give me three for 30 You're like making Patria 35? like, Yo, this shit is over. It's old now. And Obi Wan wanted a shirt from the ocean. You want to get a seagull WEIRD TO THE shit is over. So you might have to cut me a deal. He was a little funky ass away, man. Like I had my fucking little fake ass shirt. I was trying to do your salad. Now you're gonna sit there will always root shirts. You're gonna use it to wash the fucking car.

Jeff:

Yeah, so I mean, I'm gonna buy tickets. Like so automatic. I don't you know, I'm trying to convince you to fucking show. I don't know why you guys paid 150 per ticket to go to the roots shit. And

Anthony:

it was not paradise for two days.

Jeff:

I have no problem paying$50 I mean, you know, to go to Yankee grant, so we're gonna have to pay tolls and parking. Okay, minimum 100 Just to get into the ship. But

Anthony:

right, but where are they going to fit you? Are they gonna fit some little funky as many stadium bleachers?

Jeff:

I'm assuming? I mean, how many people can you fit on the actual field? A lot, probably. Because I figured I'm gonna assume I'd like to assume that for the 50th anniversary of hip hop, you could get 2030 I'm not going to say they're going to sell out Yankee Stadium. I don't expect that. But if tickets are going to be reasonably priced, and it's the 50th anniversary of hip hop, I figure you could get people from let's say from 25 years old all the way up to like maybe 50 years old are quote unquote Oh heads you know, you and with this lineup this is mostly your overhead lineup. Right? It's you figure I can finally fit 20,000 people in there. I would like to think

Anthony:

that I mean, the answer to your question is Thursday you will find a third that you feel with with seats available where right right because hopefully they got a big enough screen to show everybody

Jeff:

I mean, I'm sure and then that didn't tell us a lot of the field for like the stage and shit so most of the fields are gonna be the stage I'm sure they'll have some seating some special limited edition seating on actual field it'll probably be worth a couple 100 I believe at the dollar tickets will probably be you know when the bleachers or wherever the fuck and the stands and shit.

Anthony:

Oh, we didn't know you're gonna do that you're gonna pay for it guys get some cardio to walk all the way up to fucking stairs. Your host and somebody's gonna be on Instagram party livestream. They're on the phones. Aren't you like that? I want to do that the concert but like the signal is like it gets too many folds going on and the signal was shit.

Jeff:

What are the chances? My focus is gonna be smoking weed in Yankee Stadium?

Anthony:

1,000% it's legal in New York. It's legal in New York. Okay, today, okay. Yeah, but

Jeff:

you're technically it's not technically legal to smoke indoors. I don't know if that stadium is considered an outdoor venue or is it considered indoors?

Anthony:

Is there a fucking roof? Then it's outdoors. Right? If it's literally outdoors, okay. And this is how it goes with security, security and got time to try to brush through the crowd put out one need to join it's a lot of people in this Vogon so they're gonna keep like picking out desperate they try to break up the violence in the fight. They don't worry about the bike and Hi. If you hi that mean you mellow. Smoke it up. I don't care. That mean you watching the show? You didn't even bother nobody you just using their faded. So you're only going to heart let's say let's say it's gonna be 20,000 people, right? How much security are you going to hire? On it? 200 right. What? 1000 It's

Jeff:

gonna be mad cops in there, but usually a lot of cops and then when the Yankees play? Yeah, the whole NYPD BNN motherfuck

Anthony:

be it but it didn't make you think it'd be wild fighting other fans and you know, like

Jeff:

they like so for it is you figure they're gonna have a bunch of people smoking weed and drinking. I wonder what they're gonna be selling as far as food and I wonder how much they're gonna be charging for drinks and shit a lot. Because, you know, I know how expensive shit is for Yankee game.

Anthony:

Right? So you can expect him to be no different. To charge a lot. I expect him like charging like less. Like, let's say they had like a commemorative Hip Hop 50 Like, old bottle. Right? Would you buy a potty bite? Right? It's

Jeff:

the other souvenir cup and you can fill it with whatever drink you want. Get Free refills, like a little bit.

Anthony:

Like, go go back to the seats. But excuse me, I gotta go back to consistent I get a free refill and my cup. I message on my fucking.

Jeff:

That's where I'm gonna be at August 11 to August 11. And it just occurred to me and this was by pure coincidence that hip hop's birthday is in August and our podcasts birthdays in August, rarely Our very first episode was August 16. of 2020 that still don't inspire me to go to the pump is August 11. of 1973

Anthony:

we Fabius.

Jeff:

We first got arrested five days after

Anthony:

five days ever. That's not inspiring me to go to this fucking thing. I said, Well, that's the thing. I'm not going to say now. I might I'm more likely gonna say no, but I'm not gonna say no right now. I'm just gonna like, let me see what the where the tickets are where to see that because they get some dumb shit. Wait for the 300 section. I'm like, for $50 and then like I said, the EZ Pass is going into it. They're gonna charge you $20 For tool by sending some shit in the mail. You got to pay for parking like for these niggas.

Jeff:

Man, let's move on and

Anthony:

put in a real fucking show. $50 I want everything I want all $50 worth. I need to put walking up and across stage back and forth for like an hour. And she started 600 is gonna be Oh, wow. That's a lot of Acts. Yeah, no, I can see like, that will be some shit that will fight if you stress it as like a festival over a couple of days. But

Jeff:

is Yankee Stadium, you know what I'm saying? So I mean, but then again, the fact that there, it's on a Friday, that means the Yankees are gonna be away that weekend. So they probably don't know. And I was playing unless, you know, unless they have some plan for like that Saturday, where the stadium is like, hey, we need you out of here by this time so we could get ready for tomorrow's show, whatever. You know, if it's gonna be organized and Yeah, they'll probably you know, they'll probably have guys coming to do one verse and get the fuck off. I mean, they go at the Grammys are like they do at those types of awards show where they compress everything into like a 10 minute set, you know, I mean, yeah,

Anthony:

but you get a motion but Yo, you ain't played my shit. Like no, I got seven minutes on the set dog. You're gonna get some shit like ghosts and you're gonna get run and that's it. I got two songs and I'm out. That's even a whole song you get a verse from each song. I like it wouldn't like you have a DJ he like he plays a beat he said like eight bars. He played the next beat like eight Bob like they never finished the whole song. I shoulda did that shit. But he got so many songs like

Jeff:

we talked about this before. We talked about the John Moran show before member and we know what suspension is coming because the commissioner Adam Silver released the statement and he said we've uncovered a fair amount of additional information we probably could have brought it to a head now but we've made the decision that it would be unfair to these players and these team to announce that decision in the middle of this series. So they're gonna wait till the NBA Finals is over because they don't want to distract from that shit. And ending on hand to hammer down to his mother fuck him off okay, you suspended for the year or something to that effect? I'm expecting some shit like that.

Anthony:

I'm either gonna be half season a whole season one of the two I probably say a half I say he's

Jeff:

gonna be suspended for a season and they're not going to let him play in the postseason and we'll see you as next year. Season the excessive though hey they're gonna make an example out of them bro them waving pistols on be making us look foolish out here be

Anthony:

but in shoot nobody

Jeff:

was that that's that's that is that we're waiting for?

Anthony:

Yeah, like the punishment don't fit the crime. Like you just some idiot in a car waving a gun around? I'm not saying that. I see that often. I'm saying that people do we run guns and cars, but it's worth your whole season? Because I mean, I mean, I mean, okay, so that should happen before you said you said you went to rehab. We've got a little therapy got things sorted out us back in eight games. All right, cool. Now whatever was done before you took the action to try to make it proactive so on so forth. So if you set out eight games, let's say you make them sit out 25 Maybe 30 Hell yeah. Like yeah, like like Jermaine O'Neal got like 2025 games for that mountain the palace shit. Wrong. I spent the rest of the season Stephen Jack Gottesman the rest of the season. You know why? But it wasn't a crowd fight and love focus like that. The punishment fit the crime. Jermaine O'Neal trying to get off the court stealing all from people he got 25 Like it's still a bad act

Jeff:

house. Shame to they may read that should meet Reggie retire. That was the best team Reggie Miller ever had. And it was smoking two pistons that I knew there was about to go all the way to the finals. And then they do that they pull that dumpster Reggie Miller was like fuck this man. I'm out of him.

Anthony:

They were smoking a fucking booth. They had Detroit be a little kick in the ass all night. But again, the crime has the punishment has to fit the crime. You got to suspend you know Steven, you got to spin Ron for all of that shit.

Jeff:

That was a squad bro. They had. They had O'Neill

Anthony:

Rondo test. Steven Jackson, Jamal Tinsley, Reggie Miller, they have a lot of dudes but the problem is that you just started small for and started shooting guard when this the crap starts weighing on everybody. Once you see that, like all right, y'all gotta sit down for the rest of the season. Jemaine foot across the floor because some dudes coming out Dang, he know he cracked on dude. He Got 20 Got 2025 So like it was you know, it was reasonable. He was in defense of somebody and you shouldn't throw the punch but he threw the punch whatever. Jasna in a car, you know, dance around with a gun. He shot Nobody. Nobody shot at I'm not saying that but just because you carry weapons gonna lead to violence but I'm saying that I don't think there's just been a boy for the year like he didn't didn't do anything like extremely egregious. The only thing he really made an ass out of isn't himself the only way he gets to spend it for a year because the league is like, you're not fucking up the money and and the only reason they might do that because they really really really do need them like like it but you know

Jeff:

they probably thinking about investors and sponsorships you know, I'm saying, thinking about monster ships are gonna be like, yeah, Nike, whoever else they're gonna be like, yeah, we're not fucking with you. I got these dudes waving pistols. Yeah, fucking a ball bag, you know, I mean, we will pull the sponsorships.

Anthony:

Like even right now, like the Jama rants are hard to get. But it was like kind of like, what carries was the shit. And then all that shit went down with him. And they kind of let that part go now to kind of dealing with this, like here, and if they can't have it, but they say you don't want to suspend them for years because you get a better story him coming back. The Redemption team getting the shit together, things like that. So you don't want to offer them. But maybe like that, maybe 25 games 30 Something like that. But the whole season for just being a dumbass. It's a bit much.

Jeff:

All right. Before we go is the topic I want to discuss with you right quick. Break because recently, my man Neil deGrasse Tyson went on an interview. And he said that, scientifically speaking, the white man resembles monkeys more than the black man does. And you know, historically, that's been the biggest racial slur, right? Oh, you know, black, you're an ape. You're a monkey, whatever the fuck, right?

Anthony:

I know when that tops that but continue.

Jeff:

Well, yeah. And I called you and I mentioned this to you. I'm like, Yo, did you see this interview? He was like, Nah, I broke it down to you. And it occurred to me that what we've been calling racism this whole time might actually be colorism. And we mentioned we talked about colorism when we spoke about when we did the episode about who can say the N word if you're biracial, but if you're white skin, you can't say it but if you're biracial, but if you're dark skinned, you're more accepted right? That's colorism correct so when racist say oh, you know a black man looks like a monkey or he looks like an ape. That's colorism. Why because the only thing and deGrasse Tyson you know enlightened me to this the only thing that they even have in common is that that of their darker complexion, right? Yes, everything else. The white man resembles more of the fucking monkey.

Anthony:

Yeah, let's talk about it. Sure, man. You want you want air and this

Jeff:

is scientifically speaking right? Who is more fucking hairy? A white man or a black man? And I'm sure no and I'm not saying there's no hairy black men and everybody got hairy I'm I'm hairy as fuck. That this character is going well what I'm saying is when you think of Harry motherfuckers you don't automatically think of a black man I know I don't like like

Anthony:

Mike Syria Mike Syrian right which is weird, right? It's a weird combination. Sorry, Mike. But he Yeah, like like like it's just the the red hair is it just cracks me up when I'm like you really is red here. We're Oh shit.

Jeff:

Like historically. You know when you see black males or black people in general. They're hairy by choice right? They let the beard grow. Whatever the fuck they let the afro grow. That's you know by choice, right?

Anthony:

Yeah, mom was a choice, man. I was going both I need to keep them here if I grew a beard,

Jeff:

correct. But you see these motherfuckers and they hairy is fun. They back the arms, the shoulders, the chest, the legs. Everything's fucking hairy. Yoli knuckles. That's that monkey DNA. That's the ape like genetics, right?

Anthony:

I think he just found the title of the show. That's that monkey beer.

Jeff:

Sounds a little racist. That might be a descent Is that racist segment?

Anthony:

Hell no, you buddy or someone if you had a lot of shows and that's that monkey DNA. Like, I gotta see what the fuck they talking about this? All right. All right. Where your DNA? Where are you taking me with this? Seriously, I got that monkey DNA. Isn't

Jeff:

that a Kendrick moss?

Anthony:

It's stupid. Because, okay. Like, the problem is that like, okay, let's say Neil deGrasse Tyson who's extremely intelligent, he makes a statement. And he's saying I have a purely scientific base, but purely nothing else. Like, not trying to denigrate anybody. Um, this is purely from a scientific fashion. We're saying that if you look at the shape model and mode of monkeys, they seem more befitting to white people than anything else. Correct. The thing that is saying about monkeys when it comes to black people isn't necessarily the whole look of the darker thing. It's like like the the wider nose and the bigger lips

Jeff:

and on bigger lips, let's talk about lips because monkeys don't have big lips. Guess what monkeys and apes have they have thin lips? Guess who historically has thin lips?

Anthony:

Talking about I hate white people.

Jeff:

No, no, no, no, these are facts. No, no, no, no, I'm talking factual. Scientifically right now I'm not talking about no racism and BI is. No, I'm not talking about none of that shit.

Anthony:

I'm with you.

Jeff:

I'm telling you that white people historically have thinner lips than black and brown people.

Anthony:

Is that correct? Guessing so does that mean that he can whistle better?

Jeff:

I don't know. That sounds like a racist comment. And what I'm saying is monkeys and apes have thin lips. As another example of how they're more closely resemble the white man. And then another thing. You've seen those videos right? Where monkeys are like, picking each other's lice and eating them shits. Like two three of them behind each other just eating each other's lice. Yeah. Guess who historically has more lice in their head than black and brown folks? This is fact right now I'm spitting is a stats This is statistically

Anthony:

look. You want to ride this wave dog? I don't know fat dog.

Jeff:

I'm telling you statistics broke. The white man. Statistically, contracts lice. This year more than the black and brown man does

Anthony:

this show some 5% above the fuck boy. I'm about to put a curfew on this shit by to get wild. Fucking brother Akbar. Rose over here. That's the fucking glasses and shit. Like the book says that the eye here lies to say Hey, brother, you know a license disease in your head that seeped into your mind. That means the pointlessness of the white man's like, Fuck, man gray. This

Jeff:

is not even an anti white. This is not even an anti white episode. I'm not trying to spew anti white rhetoric. Here's the thing that is hitting you with scientific and statistical facts. I know. But you sound like a white person saying that besides the color of their skin, the white man is resembles monkeys more than the black man does. Therefore, and furthermore, we should immediately or not as a racist people should immediately go to the ape and the monkey and the chimpanzee. This and racism towards blacks, the show eliminate that automatically. You know, this is like because it's not factual. It's not based on anything factual.

Anthony:

This is like reverse capacity. Like, it's like it's not like a white person wiling out. It's like, it's a person of color making a white person's argument. It's like the kind of like, why because like, like, you know, you know, black people make up most of the prison population, which is technically true, didn't really get to the root behind it. Like a whole thing of like, you know, white people resemble monkeys more. And I'm like, Alright, let's take that. To be fair, let's take it to be scientific fact. What do we do about anything? Like, just because that's the beauty of like being white, like, even if that should happen to be 100% True. The seven called Black people monkeys and throw bananas at them anyway. We won't judge what the black like was, I think the guy thing, fussiness Jr, something like that. He's a man of color. He plays soccer in a European League and I think he got to my throne again for saying some kind of racist statements and when a game smart threw a banana on the field something else like that. So what is happening through the banana field he was like hold up your resemble monkeys more than I do. So you should have this banana back. This is more befitting to you. Now I'm not saying that we some flush it I think it might be kind of insane. But that's the kind of argument that we're having. But if we're saying that someone is something more like this than that, so you probably shouldn't be calling these people that Brexit isn't a lexicon like Nick is like like monkeys is going to be there like they just can't help themselves. They shouldn't say it but they do to reverse back a couple years ago. Remember there was a big uproar when it was that that the little black kid in the hoodie from the gap and it was like like like like big likely like like biggest was like biggest monkey in the jungle something like that. And people got rural offended by it. And like I get it I know where it's coming from but that seems kind of whatever in regards to this but it happened so just because someone proves to be scientifically true doesn't mean that it's going to just erase their racist intent or the fascist people are going to use it they're gonna say wow, she could we want to say wow shit and they don't said all I said the problem with like, with racist white people that their their racism is just old, but they don't come up with anything new. You're remaking the same old shit and calling us monkeys for everyone to keep calling us back. You can't think of anything better has mothership back in the day spirit checker, porch monkey some just just some wildly illiterate creative shit. Now you're gonna kind of go no go back to you know the same old classic so just because Neil deGrasse Tyson said that you know why people are like monkeys doesn't mean they're not gonna stop calling us monkey so it's good information to have and let's start calling them monkeys. And they give like what your monkey note and I'm not doing that.

Jeff:

I thought it was interesting when you know that it is Tyson would bring

Anthony:

that up. It is I'm not doing that because you would like a black white party monkey like no man, you're a monkey behave like Nah, man, you know what your Nigar see? And then she starts escalating. He's kind of you hit

Jeff:

that and then you hit a pit?

Anthony:

Yeah, what, what, what, what, what just is just a misconstrued piece of knowledge. No one needs to call anybody anything. My whole thing is that don't call it nobody shit unless you're ready to fight. And most people see that in a crowd of people or people behind them. It's gonna have a back, I don't see somebody's walking the trees, just saying racial epithets left and right, the people because fates have to be run. They generally don't happen that way. So if the general rule is even if deGrasse Tyson again says this thing is scientifically proven to be true, perfectly fine. My thing is that unless you know how to fight, you probably shouldn't say to certain people, because either you're going to kick their ass or they're gonna kick your ass, but somebody's gonna end up in a fight depending on the class or the person that you're dealing with. So if you don't say it, you won't get hit, but we talked you you get hit. So Neil deGrasse taught us something you also taught us like, Don't fucking fight you might look at

Jeff:

but yeah, man. Just remember that the debate is lost when slander is the tool of the loser. We're going to try to give you something most this week as well. Shout out to the culture crew. The culture

Anthony:

bye monkeys

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