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Trust, Vision, and Redemption: Welcoming Back Doubters

• Jeff and Anthony • Episode 141

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We welcome special guest editor and producer, Razir Jae, who once upon a time produced a rival podcast to The Culture. We discuss the fall outs of said podcast and the conundrum of having business partners wanting to reap the benefits of your hard work without wanting to go through the struggle with you.

Venture with us down the rabbit hole of podcast production, through the highs and lows, the hurdles and triumphs. Our special guest lays bare the unmatched rewards of launching his own website, the blood, sweat, and tears that went into producing his own music and videos, and the necessity of investing in the right tools to bring a vision to life. Brace yourself for an open and earnest discussion about the perils of collaboration, the importance of editing, and the tricky navigation of YouTube's trademark claims.

As we round out the episode, we dive headfirst into a debate that has set many a tongue wagging - who are the top five rappers, dead or alive? Razir gives us his list.
Get ready for some hard truths about authenticity in friendships, the delicate dance of trust in relationships, and the fine line between loyalty and business. We end on a note of controversial rankings and the perennial question – where does Eminem fit in the grand scheme of things? Join us for an episode that promises to be as thought-provoking as it is entertaining.

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  • Should somebody be allowed back into a business venture if they weren't part of the vision or process? 
  • Everybody isn't cut out for podcasting
  • Razir's top 5 rappers 
  • Best rap groups of all time

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Jeff:

Yo, yo, yo, yo yo. We back another episode of the culture. Like Ulthura is your boy, jeff From here with my man Ant, was good homie. We have very special guests today. This gentleman is the owner and creator of RazirTVcom as T-I-V-I-R-A-Z-I-R-T-I-V-Icom. Yes, sir, and there's a couple of things I want to talk about before we get into. You know everything, but you can also find him at dailymotioncom. Slash Razir underscore TV. You got a YouTube page. All the links are going to be on the show notes. Y'all check them out. My man, we call him Raz the Razir, razirj. What up, homie?

Raz:

What's up? What's up? AKA, the Queens kid in the building. Thanks for putting me on the spot, so I appreciate that I gave me a slot.

Jeff:

Tell us a little bit about yourself before we get into the real nitty gritty.

Raz:

Um real quick, you know, from New York, from Queens, corona, queens, yes, sir. Um been there for like 20 years. Um, i got out, um joined the military for about three years And then, after that, moved to Florida, been to Miami for a little bit And then I got married. I came to Orlando, got divorced in 2006. Damn your statistic. No, i got married in 2006. Then I got divorced in 2011. And then, ever since then, i've been stuck in Orlando And right now I'm kind of sick of Florida.

Speaker 3:

to be honest with you, I hear that a lot.

Jeff:

I actually hear that a lot from people that have been out there for a while.

Raz:

Yo, the traffic, the population, the people moving, what you all moving down here for? Hey, listen, everything's so congested now. It's like what? because of Disney. Listen, they didn't take Disney out of this shit. Take Disney somewhere else. Move that shit somewhere else, listen that's the thing I kind of huh, how's the racism?

Jeff:

What's?

Raz:

that.

Jeff:

You know, I hear that a lot. Oh, um yeah.

Raz:

There's. Listen, they try to keep that shit on the ground but I peep it. You know, i see what's going on And um, but you know it's a lot of toleration, you know, especially in the workplace. You know, especially further up north. You know Jacksonville, georgia, alabama, of course you know, but you go further south past. You know Orlando was more diverse.

Speaker 3:

You know, obviously, you got Miami, you got Fort Laud. Um, you got, um, you know, a Boca Raton. You know it's a lot more relaxed. As for you know, everybody's cultured, everybody's, you know, together trying to unify, and you know, just be open to the mind and it'd be diverse, you know so.

Jeff:

And I met you. I was going to say I met you in a fantasy football league. Is that correct?

Raz:

Yeah, uh, i believe was the basketball was the first one, i think right.

Jeff:

I think that was the first one And now that I think about it, that's the same way I met Aunt.

Raz:

I'm through a fantasy league.

Jeff:

So now I'm posing the question about myself Like is that a little bit racist of me That all my black friends, i meet them in fantasy football leagues and shit, like is that a little bit racist?

Raz:

Not at all. Not at all. It's just like you know, a fantasy is it's. It's why it's like you know, everybody's involved in it It's somehow a lot of people can be like, for instance, football.

Raz:

You know I'm saying you got. You know you got your characters, you got your coca, you got your race white folks there. But yet when it comes about football, when you talk about football, you come together. About football, go watch the game, you go to the event. You know you watch it on TV.

Raz:

All of a sudden race racism just got, gets the spell for some reason, like everybody coming together, everybody watching the game Listen, majority of the black folks obviously. Everybody know we made 75, 80% of the league on both. You know, nfl and NBA. You know I'm saying we're moving up, obviously with with MLB and all that stuff. But you know it's funny how we can have certain functions come together and life itself is kind of disposed. We just kind of excited to be in the midst of the excitement, the entertainment of sports. But you know, once that's over, all of a sudden people go oh shit, i'm a racer, let me go back to what I was doing before. That's some crazy shit. I don't understand it And I was his ignorance, but at the end of the day at least you know.

Jeff:

You know at there's some point I was going through this turning that we can share together, I know, but anyways, the reason why I got I wanted to get you on the phone or on this on this episode was, Yeah, there's a topic I wanted to discuss and I talked to him about it. I was watching an episode of black in crew, New York. I don't know if you guys watch that show.

Raz:

I heard of it. I haven't watched it yet. I got it on, i feel, on my cloud right now.

Jeff:

I haven't peeped it yet, but so black in crew, you know black on tattoo. Basically company conglomerate and the head dude or Caesar, you know he got fired from the show and he, you know he got. I don't know if he's in jail or what. Well, that's why he okay, that's why he Yeah, because the video surface of him beating his dog or whatever, And then you know, that's a.

Ant:

That's a big offense in this country.

Jeff:

So you know he got locked up or that or whatever, whatever, Anyway so they're still they're still shooting the show without him.

Jeff:

But they got the rest of the cast right. And one of the other dudes who because it's three co-owners it was Caesar, puba and fucking Teddy. So Puba, he was like yo, let's do our own thing. You know, we don't need Caesar, we could keep the brand going. Let's start up let's. You know, let's open up our own tattoo shops, all right. So he had the vision, he had a plan, right. So he started telling it to all the other crew members. And you know, teddy, one of the dudes, he was like I'm down with you. The other dude, spider, who's a tattoo artist. He's been down with them since day one. He was kind of iffy about it, right. So he's like I don't know.

Ant:

You know, because he, you know he was a fan and I get it.

Jeff:

You're afraid. You're afraid of the unknown. You know what I'm saying. You don't want to dive into something that you don't know if it's going to work or not. So he did his own thing. Puba started opening up shops and you know, when he sees it starting to work out, then then the spider dude comes back and he's sitting down with him and he's like yo, let me be down with you now. And he's like nah, bro, you wasn't with me.

Jeff:

You know the, the basically you know how they say you wasn't with me shooting in the gym, right, right, right. So when I had the vision, you wasn't you know what I'm saying. You wasn't trying to fuck with me because you was unsure, you wasn't believing in my vision. Now that you see that it's materializing, now you want to jump in. He's like nah, i'm good bro. So they had a big, you know fighting, a big argument and whatever. And I'm big on that. I'm big on. If you wasn't with me shooting in the gym, then don't come and try to take advantage now, when the shit's working right. And I say all of this to say because there was a situation and I've mentioned it on here a couple of times. I don't like to talk about it a lot and I won't talk about it again after this episode But when we first started the podcast, it was supposed to be a three-man thing.

Jeff:

It was supposed to be me and and One more person that we're gonna leave unnamed. We're not gonna mention this Dude. What happened was literally a week before we launched this podcast, august of 2020 a Week before he was like nah, i can't do it. I got some shit going on, i got family issues, i'm going through some. I cool, no problem, go work, you know, go handle your, your family or whatever issues. You got your business And you know we'll catch you down the line. All right, we dropped a week later, first episode, me, and, and it was called the top five. We talked about the top five rappers of all time. We talked about the top five NBA players of all time.

Ant:

That's what that?

Jeff:

immediately the drop drops. He's hitting me up, right. He's like yo, i heard your episode. That shit is dope. Yo, i like what you guys are doing. I'm trying to know if I could be down with y'all. Let me, let me. Can I keep? can I get back in? right, i'm like he calls me on the phone. I'm like yo, wait a minute. But just days ago you told me you couldn't, you couldn't fuck with us, like you had shit to do. You know you had something you had to take care of. Yeah, nah, i'm good now, though I could jump. I was like, nah, we're gonna go with a two-man crew. You feel me Like thank you, but no thanks type of shit.

Jeff:

Like at this point we just you know two man, i think two, three men would be crowded and then I told them this and I don't know if this is where the beef started between me and This gentleman but I told him like nah, we're gonna go with only a two-man booth, but you're welcome to come on as a guest any time. I Don't know if you took that personal right. I don't know if you took that some type of It was like nah, that's all good, it's whatever. Piece. Boom.

Raz:

We love you.

Jeff:

There you go, personal right there I piece, boom, we left it like that. Next thing I know is he makes his own podcast And he named it Brooklyn's finest. And again, this is the only time I'm gonna mention this shit here. Again, i'm not mentioning that, the name of that shit again, yeah, he dropped his own podcast. He made only about three episodes, didn't work out and And I heard his shit. I heard his shit. You know I'm saying I wanted to hear, i'm not wasn't gonna hate, i was like a me here. You know I'm saying so. Whatever couple of listeners he had, i was one of them and Immediately when I heard this podcast is inspired by and for the culture, i was like wait a minute, that shit sounds familiar. When I heard dude saying the slogan on his podcast, i was like alright, he's definitely either biting or taking shots or jabbing. But anyway, i mentioned all that to say because the gentleman we have on rise, he actually produced said podcast. He was behind the scene.

Speaker 3:

Was in the middle of a civil war that he ain't even know about. Yeah, and listen, it wasn't even like he do want to give me a percent, he wanted to give me less than that.

Jeff:

If anything, you doing more work than he was. You doing all the work I.

Speaker 3:

Like I said, you know, for him to go all the script and all the writing, all the prep, all get all that knowledge together, you know, get the topics together, the subject learning, all that I mean that's a lot in itself But at the end of the day for me to push that shit out there online, that's it is a lot of work. I mean, like I was saying before, like a little piece I I hit you up with yesterday To me 30 minutes, that little track. I did that little one minute track. I was like 30 minutes of work, leave it for me. You know, other people can probably drop it and do that shit, like in 10 minutes or so.

Speaker 3:

But you know this is something I enjoyed doing. I love doing it, i love trying to, you know, mix music and, and you know, just make these little video and shows that I just finished Launching my website last week, and this I don't believe a coincidence, but I just launched last week. Then here you go hitting me up yesterday and I was telling you what I was doing And all of a sudden now we're talking about the same thing, what I try to do. But oh boy, back then it's everything just line, and now I was laughing about it just for me How everything just worked out the way it do.

Jeff:

And I'll leave it to you, man, talk about it though.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's like. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, um, so, what it is, it's like, um, i tried to, like I said, do that podcast, get on the the whole. I like something about producing videos and putting it together, editing, cutting and, you know, put an animation tax and, you know, put the beat behind it, the backdrop, all that stuff I'm into. But I'm just getting into it fresh, i'm brand new. I'm wrong. That shit is like wrong for me, like I'm going, i'm just moving along as I go And I figure, if I really enjoy doing this, i can't go half-assed on the program that I use.

Speaker 3:

So I go all out the program that I use, even for the music. When I used to mix music back in Miami, you know I I'll voice a lot. I don't even want to put me on doing old ed DJ stuff and mixing and all that, and I purchased that licensing to get that, um, that software on my computer to mix music on my computer. Um, but something about it. Just I just enjoy my creativity as far as how I mix music, how I, you know, compose a video, even if it's just a simple intro, like I did for you yesterday, like I dropped yesterday, and the website is just basically those that are wanting someone to Create an intro for whatever A channel page that they have, that they don't have the time. When you can't find a person to Take the time to make an intro for them, i can just do something for them, trying to help them along the way. Um, like I said, i'm completely brand new to this. I don't, i mean, this is a very like I said yesterday, it's very, very super niche, top of thing, a type of venture that I'm pursuing. I don't know if it's gonna manifest anything down the line, but I know one thing when you hit me up yesterday and you asked me reshaps for my services, i was elated to help you. I was like this is just There's something about it. It's ignites me to go ahead and do stuff like that, because my job, my 8 to 5, that's not it, bro, and I already told myself. So when January hit this year, i was like I knew that I can't do that, i'm not going for it and I'm trying to find some kind of way to make some kind of income online. How can I take what I'm doing, what I enjoy doing, what I love to do, how can I flip that, you know, and make some kind of revenue stream come my way. I don't know if this is it, um, i don't know if it's going to lead me to a different direction That would enable me start making some income on the side, but I'm trying to grind it out, i'm trying to learn as I go, to end up these videos to see you just get some more information and just educate myself on this.

Speaker 3:

Basically, this, the Saturated area that I'm in when it comes to trying to produce, and even if it's just simple intro, you know it takes a lot of work. You know, even the minute intro that I did with that easy joint that I hit you with that was dope. That, right there took four, that's it four hours because I have to cut all that shit. I have to cut a bunch of stuff. Bring in my own work, compose all that, get the track together, lay it, sink everything together in line and then put my intro in front of that. I mean everything go, you know, string line with that. I guess, like I said yesterday, if you think it's something I want to get your feedback like, if there's something you think that It's not really gonna floor is not in there, you just give it up. I'm okay. I can open the criticism. You know That's how I end up our role, so there's something that is out of direction I should be pursuing. I just got to go. You know what's the next thing for me, you know, but I know.

Jeff:

I told you was dope. I'm just trying to figure out how you managed to put these shits up on YouTube without getting hit with no trademark claims. You know say you told me you had some tricks.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna have to pick your brain Maybe off the air, but it doesn't work.

Jeff:

I'm gonna have to make sure you jump on fiber too, bro, make sure you're making account on fiber.

Speaker 3:

There's a dude. There's a dude this morning. He mentioned fiber. What he does? he uses chat GPT. What he does? he goes out, he finds like some kind of trending news article, right, he copies it, he paste it in chat GPT and revises it and kind of makes it Rewarded in a way where it doesn't right any kind of plagiarism. Once he does that, he posts it on Fiber and then he puts in a mouth for us.

Speaker 3:

Hey, i can write for you. I can go for whatever it is. Hit me up. I can be 50, 50 bucks an article or 12 cents, 50 cents a word. I mean I don't. I mean I. I appreciate what they're doing. They're trying to find ways to use the tools at hand that are free for their benefit. That's something that I would gravitate to, because I'm not in that article, in blogging that world. But I can appreciate it. I can still learn from that. I just opened up my own Chat GPT account last week and I thought that that's what I actually used to do the descriptions on all the videos that I post on my. Yes, i Compare what I wrote versus what DPC did and it's like night and day. I don't even have the words in the book.

Jeff:

Going back to the editing of the podcast. I always joke that. You know that. I always tell people that the easiest part is me jumping on and recording for a half hour. An hour is after I turn the mic off that I'm editing, putting the shit together, trying to come up with the title, trying to come up with the description, putting it out there. To me That's the hardest part. I always tell people that once I'm done recording, they're like yo, you done this, be out. I'm like yo, wait a minute, now I got it. Now.

Speaker 3:

The real work starts for me, you know So you do all that, you do all that.

Ant:

Yeah, i do all that, you know people be like oh, you should hire somebody, you should hire somebody I don't like.

Jeff:

I don't like hiring people. I don't like hiring people because I like. You know I know what I like, i know how I want it to sound. You know I'm saying, i know how.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they saw your approval. If you don't like it, i can really do it until you like it. You know it's like this for you. It's just for your podcast. I want to make sure that you happy. You know I'm saying so. I understand that. But I always thought you had a production team behind you. I didn't think it was as you and aunt doing the whole thing. It looks good, it looks professional, it was great. I mean, that's what happened.

Jeff:

But, tell us what happened, real quick, what happened to the Brooklyn finest podcast? because I know I mean the statistics show that the majority of podcasts don't go past a few months. You know I'm saying, but you know you know he wanted he wanted. He wanted to piggyback off of my shit, create his own shit, and it only lasted like three episodes. So what happened with that shit Five?

Speaker 3:

episodes Yeah, is he in real estate? what?

Jeff:

the fuck does he know about home mortgaging bro?

Speaker 3:

Bro. Well, like it goes back to what I said in the beginning, like he got to do that homework, he got to, you know, get the research done, right that shit out, figure how he's gonna work, how he's gonna present it online. And, of course, i got a do the book that shit together and present it out to the masses. So What happened was the same thing. It was like family, i ain't got time. You know, i got all the shit going on, yada, yada, yada, and I'm thinking. I'm thinking to my own.

Speaker 3:

I told straight out Yo, you think these podcast, all these people, that police people that be doing that they married, they ain't got family, you know. They ain't got shit to do. On the back end, like you know, you're not the only one. Ain't no special about you That separates you, differentiates you from somebody else as far as your life being busy, someone else's life being big. They find a way to dedicate the time to do this. You got to find a way to dedicate time to do it if you really want to do. I know I wanted to do it. That's how it's pushed so hard for it. I mean, even you know our homeboy. You know II I'm not gonna say this one name. But II, ii was pressing like yo, yeah, i gotta stay on this.

Speaker 3:

But he wasn't. He was making a scene like he, the president of the country, he running the country, so he got out all that. Well, this is God. You came to me, you know, and I presented to you what I could contribute to the podcast and when he saw that, you know, he came alive with it. Oh, this shit, live, let's, let's, let's think up, you know.

Speaker 3:

But then, of course, at that point he didn't want to give me 50%, he won't give me half of that, i mean less than half of that. But anyway, i'm sorry short, i lost my, i lost my motivation, right, i was like, okay, you ain't for this, i'm just keep my shit to myself. I'm gonna do my own thing and if anybody see me and they want to reach out and you think I can be a benefit, you know, give them the mark, push em up, service with them. I'll do that. But I wouldn't even pursue one amount of time. I was kind of disgusted about it because the way it ended left a sour taste in my mouth, so I kind of walked away from completely. I wasn't even thinking about doing videos and mixing music and all that kind of just let that alone. I was like, you know, just, he ain't the one for me to link up and then try to do this. So I think, well, it was not him then.

Speaker 3:

Obviously, for me personally, i don't. I don't speak in public, i don't, i don't do podcast, i don't. I'm not, you know, i'm not out there like that. So it's something for me that I can do on my own. All I can do is all the back end of all the stuff behind the scenes. Yeah, that's why I thrive, you know. But I figured, you know what, at the end of the day, you know, since I do have this small level of skill set where I can actually Produce these intros and mix a little music, i figured, you know, let me just create a website, see if people like it. They'll take to it. They say, hey, you know what? I want to use your service. Can you just drop me a little something? something I said, sure, no problem, go ahead and whatever you want to donate, just donate. So that's where I decided to launch my website last week.

Speaker 3:

This isn't, even if it doesn't take off on the eye, all these sites, all these platforms that I'm on as far as Daily motion, a rumble, what's the other one? not, you too, but there's another one, can't remember right now. These are all ad-based platforms. So as people view it, you know, obviously the, the companies you know they, i'll see provide a A level of revenue to the actual platform. Of course they trickle down something a couple peanuts to me But obviously as you generate, thousands of thousands of views starts to accumulate and then you start building.

Speaker 3:

So I got to continue a post and keep posting and keep posting and see if any of those things are going to hit. What's one isn't. If one hits, then the rest of the stuff is gonna first. That's what. That's what I'm hoping. Yeah, you know, right now the Jay Z join is the number one most watched viewed Video on YouTube right now for my from my YouTube channel. So I'm hoping people be interested to see the other content that I have. I mean, that's that's, that's, that's kind of The brain behind what I'm trying to do.

Jeff:

Do you think that? do you think that you know that caused the falling out between you guys? like the podcast not not working out or whatever. Like the beginning, because one of the things me and I talked about when we first Well, my bad, because when we first made our podcast, like that's one of the things me and I talk like we don't want this to fuck up our Relationship. You know I'm saying because we've seen it before, like where shit don't work out and all of a sudden you know that fucks up your friendship. You know I'm saying yeah, i start having a sour taste for each other and y'all start. You know, yeah, we've seen that shit.

Speaker 3:

That should happen to me before, yeah, but there was no falling. I make sure there was no falling out. I said, listen, you know you, you, you want, you want to run that excuse. As far as you so busy you can't dedicate. Fine, that's not gonna fracture what we got, you know. So I let it go, i let aside moves like this, you know, but something completely contrary to that, where the falling out happened between him and me and I don't know if you want to discuss that.

Speaker 3:

You know a lot on your podcast, but it's something completely different. Like I mentioned yesterday, eating, those little something about it. But I can kind of put, summarize basically what two places that you know. Um, i try to come at people with respect, with integrity, and I try to be real with my shit, like I'm. I'm a real lay back, i'm a cool, chill person. I don't like drama, i don't like stress in my life. Um, you know, the thing is like you know, um, you know He Kind of started showing The real side of him as far.

Speaker 3:

He came at me once talking about I don't judge, i don't do this, i don't do that, i don't do that the same person that's talking about. You know, i got your back this net. It's the same one talking about you back spreading rumors and talking to being fake. You know, once I kind of see that now, all of a sudden, you're not going to really look at my shirt. You know, this is real, this is real. The back of it says be Right and the back of it says be fake, free. And that's what I'm about. What's that is it? I know We've been, i've been rocking for him for for a few years. But you know, tom Comet just shows, showed everything at the end of the day, as far who you are as a person and unfortunately, when I realized he was the one that was, you know showing this fake side and judging me on everything And it's like wait a minute, you were the same person I was talking about. That you know. You understand me as That's who I am as a human being. You understand where I'm coming from, you can relate.

Speaker 3:

But now, all of a sudden, you're talking all this behind my back. You tell me I'm the fate and judging me, putting judgment upon me. That's what fractured everything. I think you know what I swipe left, swipe left one that day, good, um, so now it's just Listen. This is an unfortunate thing. I've been through it before. Um see, the thing is for me is that when I present myself, i know you and and don't know me from adam, but For what you do know of me is what you're going to see every day, every time we interact, or whether it be today and two years from now, i'm the same dude.

Speaker 3:

I come at you, cool. I come at you clean, chris, as that. You need, you need my assistant. You want to just talk, you just want to hang out and just, you know, go to the spot and eat up something. I'm down, you know. I'm just really about this being about Friendship, about people brought about solid relationships, just being just being able to rock with someone 100%. You know what I'm saying. I got a little time wrong on my screen. What's that?

Ant:

Is this a screenshot? What's that?

Speaker 3:

mean.

Ant:

Uh, just don't worry about it, it's not important. We good, we good, we good.

Speaker 3:

I did a good something like shit, No, no no, no, no, you ain't coming to crime, man.

Speaker 3:

You can't, yeah, um, so listen, i can appreciate the fact that you trust me enough That you would actually allow me to be on your podcast. You don't I guess you don't know me, but yet you see something about me that's genuine that you would allow me to be on your on your podcast and kind of do this show and, like I said, listen all the interactions that we've had since the fantasy shit. I come at you. What respect? 100%. You know I always give it a friendship vibe. Like you know, i don't got no mouth for hate towards anybody. I don't judge nobody. Listen, that's this is how. I'm a simple dude, you know, i'm really simple, i'm really easygoing and that and people may take that as a sign of weakness Because I'm too nice, this that Listen, i do have.

Speaker 3:

Certain things like that can get me to a dark place really quick. I mean, there's like five things in my life That's core to me my faith, my freedom, my liberty, my peace and my happiness. You kind of fracture any of that stuff. I get dark really quick and what I learned, especially with the situation here, is the fact that you know, can I find a way to take myself out of the equation? Because if I can, that I'm doing you a favor, i'm doing us a favor, because you don't want to see my dark side, because once I go dark I go all in and I hate that. So I bet I pray about it. That's why I try to bring peace and that kind of atmosphere That's really calm, cool and collected. People that can, that can contribute to the top of person that I am. So I said right there All right?

Jeff:

So let me just pose the question, because the theme of this episode is you know, should a friend or a person doesn't have to be a friend Be allowed back into your venture? you know, if they wasn't part of the vision, if that makes sense, right? And I'll start with ant Let. Yeah, i want to hear ants take on this shit Like if you wasn't with me shooting in the gym. So you be allowed back in one once the shit is flourishing hell, no, that's like.

Ant:

You know, if someone Like four guys get together like we have an idea for this company, it's going to sound pretty wild, but what's gonna do? gonna be able to go online and search things, and you know, we're gonna help out people by, you know, creating easier ways for them to get to places and so on, so forth, to find information online. Alright, cool, what you gonna call it. Oh, we were thinking Google. Nah, man, that sounds stupid. I ain't doing that now, when I should turn up to be this multi being dollar company. Like you know, i was in the room when they were talking about it. Yeah, but you didn't sign the data line. You didn't believe in the vision and believe we come for the problem with creatives in the thing. We want to do something for yourself, we want to branch out and do something. You know in your mind and your soul you're taking a very calculated risk, like I don't know what I'm doing, but I feel it's in my heart to heart. This is something that I can do to Help me personally, financially, of course, but make a significant impact and also help another's. Now, if you don't want to be a part of that, it's fine, but you only get one chance through that door. You don't get another one, can't like well, you know I, you know. And the funny thing is that they will come back to you.

Ant:

When it's going good, yeah, if it's successful, oh, yeah, i want to go back on that. If it's a failure, didn't like oh, i'm nobody going down with the sink and shit. Yeah, no one doing that. I know, i know this is not working, but I still believe in I'm a jump on. No one ever jumps on the sink and ship. But you know, rising tide raises all boats. You want to be on that joint. So if someone was jumping after the fact, after everyone has kind of made it clear and you put your heart and soul into this, you can have this vision. And if I can't say you on that vision right then and there, then you wasn't supposed to be a part of it in the first place. So my feeling is nah, hell, no, either you in at the bottom floor, but when I take the elevator up, there's no more room for you.

Speaker 3:

Understand. Yeah, i see what you're saying. I guess for me it's just slightly different because, Depending on the situation and the timing, timing is everything right. So if someone comes up to me and says, hey, i got this going on about to drop this whatever, and I got, i got legitimate shit that, like yo, i can't even do it right now because I got this shit going on and I, you know and I can vouch for that shit, like like this is something I gotta really take care about the moment and you happen to pop off when you launch.

Speaker 3:

If I, if I come at you, say, hey, now I got the time, can I come back? It's not because of the fact that you blew up, because now I was able to alleviate the problems or the issues that I had initially. Now can I come back in now? I think something about I ain't got time. No, i got shit going on at the house, i got put, i got put my garage in order. Don't explain you. I can't expect to be coming back in, but that's my excuse, that's my line. Yeah, so right there with and I'm 100%, but it just depends on the timing and a certain set of that person that you trying to bring in.

Ant:

Look is. It is really simple thing. You can say something one way and I either take it as a reason or a ticket as an excuse. If there's a reason, i get it. If it's an excuse, i can't like people do the all the time like I, like I can't. You can reason with someone's behavior, but that don't mean you got to excuse it. If someone's coming into a particular venture, i'm, like you said, like circumstances do happen, but it's not like you just disappear from like the set. It was like I gotta do what I gotta do right now, cuz this takes importance and I really do believe in this and whatever, whichever way I can to support it To that point, if y'all need me to market or talk to it about people, all right, cool. I know I can't be Invested in the way you guys are, but I do believe in it. That's a reason you're saying that.

Ant:

You know, man, no, i'm switching jobs. I got gout and I got a fix. That's an excuse, then it's a no. It's how you frame it to me. As long as you give me a real, legit reason, like I get it, and you're still down with the program, all right bet. But if you give me some kind of excuse, then it's a no 100 100.

Jeff:

That's real. I don't know, i'm petty. I guess I'm petty, i'm more petty. Yeah, i'm more petty because, like I said, if you wasn't with me shooting in the gym, then don't, don't come in now when I'm making these three pointers. You know, i'm saying don't come now to the gym when I'm making three pointers. And then the situation was this like you say, yeah, if you have an excuse, you have a legitimate excuse, cool. But a week later, you know, you tell me you got family issues and Shannon, a week later, all of a sudden those family issues are gone And now you want to jump back on.

Speaker 3:

I'm like Dispelled all of a sudden. Now a sudden. Now you got the time this has been only it's what. Yeah, that, right there. I couldn't tell you. I get that.

Ant:

I mean you simply said, like I got something going on, just give me a week, like all right, i'm just I'm putting it on hold for like a very short period of time. Yeah, no like somebody got to get started right away, like I got a family issue, some things I got to do. give me weak, i bet. all right, cool, okay, i'll give you no exactly a week.

Jeff:

He ain't safe, i'm clear about it. He ain't safe. put it on hold, right? He specifically said go ahead without me right.

Ant:

He gave you, gave you an excuse, not a reason like. If you gave it that reason like going without me because I got some She'll take care of it might have clicked in your brain like you know what I do, want you to be on this. So like get that stuff Taking care of, i'll push it back a week so then we can all start together. He's like nah, fucking going about me. Like cool, no problem, stay on shore.

Speaker 3:

The boats leaving this way you know it's funny, i didn't. I had no idea that You had came to him first. Yeah, that he never, but he never bought that set of table to me when it came to me. And Now I look back feeling something, because now it was like, well, razz can do this, you know, he can lay this shit down, he can put the shit together, he can compose, he can produce it.

Speaker 3:

Now I kind of feel like what was I really used? because, you know, he never presented this to me, as far as you know, he was trying to jump on your shit and then all of a sudden, you know, he gave up this excuse, that all of a sudden he came to me. You want to rock with me with this? and I'm thinking there was a clean slate, like I'm just jumping on what's a brand, you're completely fresh and completely original, you know. And I was like, oh, it's funny how what you, what you say, how you introduce your channels is, lies up similar to this channel here.

Speaker 3:

Then I make it was like, oh no, i came with that shit for they don't Listen, listen, there's no way for me to know. I don't even, i don't really care. But I figured the culture is a popular topic, a popular title, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But now that it's not that this is surfing as far as you know how it started and how I got on board after the fact, i know it's basically Basically legitimize that you know he lied and then you guys were the real deal. You guys were the first ones to do it. So I'm glad I know the truth now. You know after what three, four years.

Jeff:

Yes, but I'm ready to move on from it. Man, i'm curious to hear, to listen to our audience and our listeners See how they feel about you. Know, should you let people in after they Rejected you, your vision originally? you know what I'm saying. I feel like that's a good topic. But, yes, before we go, man, because we ask this, we ask all our all our guests this who are your top five rappers, dead or alive?

Speaker 3:

of all time. Oh, no, no, no, let's not do this, let's not do this.

Ant:

My man, my man, my man. There's no judgment, there is no wrong answer, there is no wrong answer. It's a personal choice.

Speaker 3:

Zero wrong answer Yes, That shit is like fluid bro. I know, oh, top five. my business, gracious, i don't put me on the spot, all right. Um, let me work backwards then. five What?

Ant:

okay, okay, all right, here's the thing. It doesn't have to be in numerical order, just your top five. All right, how you, how you feeling about them today. That's all all right.

Speaker 3:

So Nas, um, i gotta give nas His due. But you're from Queens, listen, i'm not gonna put well, um, listen, we're not gonna do two parking biggie. I'm not Not that they don't they're not valid, i mean they are, but they're always going to be The top. So I'm not even gonna consider that, because it's the top two from both sides right. So I'm not even gonna put them as my top five. So, but they're exclusion. I'm gonna say nas. I'm gonna say, i'm gonna say rock him. Wow, i didn't expect this. Actually, somebody else that use on, I'm drawing a blank.

Ant:

Um, that's the whole point. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3:

That's the whole point. Um, who else who was? I can drop in there. Um, oh, better alive, better alive. um Man, um, oh, no, i'm from the 80s and the 90s, so there's so many artists I just Oh, can we have? No, i don't know how long I'm gonna take, and it's a congested Top of top and you gave us two, you got three more man. Oh.

Ant:

First people to come to like a thing. Ain't nobody gonna judge you.

Jeff:

Appreciate that one. Do you have m&m in your top?

Speaker 3:

No top 10. Yes, not top five, and I know that's very controversial. That's like last to me, i guess Is not.

Jeff:

I ask every and I don't want to make this a racial thing, but it is a racial thing I ask every black guest, every black guest including, and that we ever have on the show. I ask them if they have m&m, and they all say no.

Ant:

So I'm thinking it's a racial thing.

Jeff:

I'm thinking it's a colorism or reverse racism.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what it is. For me it's not.

Jeff:

I can't relate to their music. I get that a lot.

Ant:

No, I'm. I get tired of arguing the shit with you. He's a great rapper, but I'm just gonna put a people ahead of him.

Jeff:

I can I can.

Ant:

I can easily put ll ahead of him. I can easily, at this point, put Kendrick ahead of him. I can easily put big. I easily put Nas. Easily put jack. Easily put rock cam. I easily put keres one. Like I said, he might be, and maybe one of the top three greatest lyricists of all time. His ability to actually spit bars is undeniable.

Speaker 3:

Right, but.

Ant:

I still got to take the total package with it. I got to put all the other shit around it. I'm not saying that don't relate to him. I had every m&m album, just saying, all right, i put some other people out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that marsham mouth was LP. That shit was.

Jeff:

All right, you got two more. You gave us Nas rock him big pun. You got two more.

Speaker 3:

All right, uh, jay-z, and I'm gonna just throw somebody old school in there. Um, i'm kind of interested to say this name because I'm probably gonna get shot if I say this. Ah, say it.

Ant:

It's America, black man, i got you listen y'all call me.

Speaker 3:

I understand y'all can edit this shit. I'm gonna just say, curtis, blow Um, just to put someone old school.

Jeff:

No, there's no, there's no shame in that.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Jeff:

I thought you was gonna save vanilla ice or empty hammers, some shit like that. I.

Speaker 3:

I'm not the coolest boy in there. You're like Dana, dana like hold up now.

Ant:

Huh, not, dana, dane, calm down.

Jeff:

You can never get clown for throwing a pioneers name out there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, i'm fine, i'm gonna put Curtis bowing there. So there's my five right there.

Ant:

I've had two so long. I didn't expect it. It's respected. No shame. No shame, brother, no shame.

Jeff:

But thank you for coming on, man. Let everybody know where they can find you.

Speaker 3:

Yo, y'all can find me. I'm on ig, um, as razzier underscore tv, um. I also have my online website, which is razzier tv online com. You can also find me on rumble, or you can also find me on daily motion And, of course, on youtube, um, there's another platform That i'm like. I can't remember what it is right now, i don't know.

Jeff:

And razzier is r a z i r tv is t i vi.

Speaker 3:

Correct, correct. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you for putting me on brother Shout out to our coach.

Speaker 3:

Much, much success. Keep doing what y'all doing, keep grinding it out, keep putting that shit out there. the content is real, is real, real, real talk. I love it. I'm gonna be following you. I know I took a hiatus at the beginning of the year because of the fact that I have issues With my job and I kind of just started separating my, my, my life from work and everything like. I was in the Not a very good place at the moment. So i'm glad you hit me up yesterday So you kind of revived me in that and i'm gonna be following for real. So I appreciate that if y'all, if y'all, still need my help with anything that I can help y'all with, just reach out to me. Never hesitate, bro. I appreciate both y'all. Yo, and thank you as well For giving me the time in the space this morning.

Jeff:

Appreciate you for coming on, brother. Again A shout out to our coach or crew And check us out on. Uh. On youtube, man, we got that reaction video up where we doing the Wu Tang triumph me and ant That's very funny.

Speaker 3:

I'll check that We got some more coming up soon, But yo whoa, whoa, whoa.

Ant:

I got a better idea, though, remember you say you want to do it. Okay, you're talking a little versus thing, right? So you heard about bill boys talk 50 Rap groups of all time bill boards now, i haven't looked at it. So number two is is who's?

Jeff:

number one.

Ant:

You already know, i don't know.

Jeff:

Oh, it was the. it was death row, wait.

Ant:

What? oh no, my boy, i'm thinking about on the bt.

Jeff:

It was they gave death row the best record label award of all time, or some shit Yeah yeah, who was number one? rap groups. Oh uh, oh nwa. No, they were number one was uh rendy mc. They were who the fuck is number one.

Speaker 3:

I'll cast. Well, I'll put in me for me a personal opinion. Nwa, I mean, that's my all-time favorite rap group right there. Um, I can't even front.

Ant:

All right. So so you want to talk about reaction videos? Jeff, I make a deal with you You can pick wu tang and I can pick outcast. You can't use no wu affiliate shit. So no meth albums, No, no, no, no ghostface albums. No re albums, just Nope, just a group. You can take wu tang, whatever shit they did, and I'll take outcast and just watch yourself get smoked. It's up to you, though.

Jeff:

I will talk about that, but yo thanks for tuning in man. Thank you, raps, for coming on.

Speaker 3:

I'll appreciate another episode of the culture. Thanks, peace, all right Peace.

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