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Jeff and Anthony Episode 151

Ever feel like cultural heritage months fly by without their due recognition? Well, not on our watch! We unravel the significance of cultural celebrations like Black History Month and the curious absence of corresponding days off for Hispanic Heritage Month. We dive into the discussion with gusto, examining how corporations observe holidays like Juneteenth and Martin Luther King Day – all while gearing up for a football showdown that promises to keep tensions high and spirits even higher.
We also bid farewell to actor Carl Weathers better known as Apollo Creed, Greef Karga, or simply Dylan, after passing away at the age of 76.

Imagine a world where every twist in the sports realm has a ripple effect on your day-to-day - welcome to that reality as we dissect the chaos an injury to a star athlete can cause in fantasy football. But it's not all sports talk; your opinions fuel our fire, and we cherish the reviews that both applaud and challenge us. From the rise and fall of fleeting fads to the call for evergreen content, we're dissecting society's trends and the genuine impact they have on our collective psyche.

As we wrap up, we don't shy away from the tougher conversations. We probe into the influence of political figures and policies, not just as talking points, but as pivotal factors shaping everyday decisions and voter behavior. And what's a discussion without a little flair from the world of celebrities and athletes? We pay homage to Apollo Creed's legacy, throw in our two cents on Super Bowl predictions, and consider the rapid ascent of stars like Patrick Mahomes. All while honoring the indelible imprint of Black culture – a tapestry we're proud to unfurl in this month-long salute. Tune in for an episode that's as culturally rich as it is entertaining! #taylorswift #carlweathers #donaldtrump #apollocreed #usher #patrickmahomes

Topics Discussed:

  1. Carl Weathers 
  2. Apollo Creed's character
  3. Taylor Swift
  4. Superbowl
  5. Usher
  6. Minority Donald Trump supporters 
  7. is Patrick Mahomes the best QB of all time?
  8. Microwave era society
  9. The Stanley Cup craze 

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Speaker 1:

Yo, we are back. Welcome to another episode of the Culture. It's your boy, jeff. My man, ant. Hello.

Speaker 2:

2024 is here 2024, we in February.

Speaker 1:

Right, do we do an episode in January? Yeah, alright, so this is the first episode of February.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Alright, well, happy black history, my brother.

Speaker 2:

Why? Thank you Our toe. Just kind of weird that you only have like two black. Is that racist? No, not really.

Speaker 1:

Just like you got two Like Texas friends like yo happy black history month.

Speaker 2:

Kind of Cause like how many friends that you know have ever sent you a Texan happy Hispanic heritage month.

Speaker 1:

Never, not one Exactly.

Speaker 2:

And like we always got to feel specialist black people. Hey man, y'all got your month. Congratulations.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but we don't even get days off for our month. Yeah, motherfuckers get days off. Well, in some companies, like my company, they'll give us like Juneteenth off, they'll give us like Martin Luther King off. You know what I'm saying? There's a few days off in February too. That we'll get. We don't get shit for Hispanic heritage.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you get presidents day off, but everybody does. What's that shit?

Speaker 1:

to do with Latinos.

Speaker 2:

Are you trying to tell Latinos that you need to step it up?

Speaker 1:

We probably need to start advocating and get some days off. The problem is, there's so many of us you know what I'm saying they're gonna have to give us Cinco de Mayo. They're gonna have to give every country the independence day. Before you know it, we got a whole month off.

Speaker 2:

All. They give you all the money.

Speaker 1:

We need an extra 30 days off in the year. Y'all get parades, that's it. That's it, that's all y'all get.

Speaker 2:

Y'all get parades. Border can day parade Everyone gets a parade. You don't get a day off. Maybe it's a good thing, I don't know. But the bad thing about February is that you get that one day off, probably for president's day, because March is a slog dog. Ain't no days off, ain't no holidays or nothing. That's your street. That sucks. I hate that.

Speaker 1:

Yo, let's shout out the Patriots, the coach, the crew, before we get started. Start off first and foremost with D-Block Hedwig. Shout out to Melly Mel.

Speaker 2:

Rewind. You said he took me up in that bed, right.

Speaker 1:

No, we'll get to that.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to Tosh.

Speaker 2:

See, no, no, no See. That's how I know we recorded this year Because of that bed.

Speaker 1:

See, right, oh, you're right. Shout out to Anonymous, aka Shell, remain Nameless. Shout out to my man, mikey Sheet this baby getting biggest fuck, and on purpose. Last but not least, this gentleman changed his name again. He does his yearly, so he's no longer King Kaiser III. We are now to refer this culture crew member as your Excellency Arthur Kaiser, the chef featuring D-Block killer. And, since you brought it up, he is the same gentleman that won our fantasy football league and, yes, he did accept your bet that you made on the last episode, where you challenged him to $100 a pop for each game that you guys will face each other. Is that correct, mm-hmm? So he accepts your challenge. We will make sure that you guys are on opposite divisions so that you can meet twice in the season and you can either split 100 or somebody can take home 200. Good luck.

Speaker 2:

Right. So the league is the league that's outside of it. So if we split it, nobody wins anything, right, because I will. You will win 100, then I will beat you and then I'll be 100, so everything breaks even. So what we're saying is that your team is going to be so good that you can maybe beat me twice, or maybe beat you twice. So, whatever this shit is going to be on in the league, get extra $200 on top of it. I'm cool with that. So that way it won't be no tiebreakers, no splits.

Speaker 1:

No, there's no. It could be a split, it could be, it could be, it might be that.

Speaker 2:

But the whole point is that you're not going to have. It's not going to happen, man, because either he's going to lose twice or I'm going to lose twice. We ain't splitting shit. I feel comfortable saying that we not doing that. You see, he wasn't even that good. That's the bad part. He's talking shit. His team wasn't good. He only beat you because your quarterback had a shitty day that day Outside of that.

Speaker 1:

He still did. He still finished with more points than me and he finished with a better record than me. But okay, so he sustained all kinds of injuries. Bro, His starting quarterback was Aaron Rodgers. Remember that he went down right away and he had to pivot.

Speaker 2:

And my argument about the whole playoff thing was this the whole point is to get into the playoffs. What you did in the record season doesn't matter. If you got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record, like in real life, you got to the playoffs. I don't care what happened around you, you was there. So we're saying the same thing with this, but I expect to make the playoffs not to say anything bold or something to that degree, just more in the sense like I've been there a plenty of time, that's haven't won it Right Even now, same thing Then the year before a tragic incident causes that to happen. Okay, so this is what we're doing, but it's fine, man. So what's today is the 4th of February. Let me make a note of that right now so we can rewind back to the 7th, but I didn't do it yet. Yes, the fuck, you did.

Speaker 1:

We good, alright. Well, before we continue into the topics that we have today, we have some new reviews. It's been a little while since somebody left a review. Alright, we got three of them. I'll read the first one by somebody. It was left on January 3rd by somebody by the name of Fallible man On Apple podcast. So fallible man. He says well done, a little hip for me, but very relevant discussions and topics. The show is well done and has a unique vibe to it a good conversation. Thank you, fallible man.

Speaker 2:

What that fella's older who the fuck says hip he says we're too hip for him, but he still likes the show.

Speaker 1:

I'm mad at it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not mad. It's just weird to say like it's just a little bit too swaggy for me.

Speaker 1:

The next one was left on January 2nd by somebody by the name of C2DN the letter C, the number two, the word the and the letter N, c2dn. On Apple podcast as well. They said date night ideas. This is a fun podcast with some solid information. I appreciated the episode about date night ideas. I think Cheesecake Factory is a good date spot for sure. Lol, keep up the awesome content in 2024. Remember that episode? We was talking about how shorties didn't want you taking them to the Cheesecake Factory.

Speaker 2:

Right, but the thing is that it's so many ideas and regards like okay, the thing I don't really like about society is that that was a really, really big thing. Then it just disappears, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

It's like was it? That's? That's the. That's the era we're living in. Every it's. This is the microwave era. Yeah, recycle information real quick. You know, I'm saying you get, you absorb it real quick, boom. That's why artists have to drop songs weekly.

Speaker 1:

That you know, I mean that's why content creators have to constantly put out shit they shouldn't Know. It wasn't like that. When we was growing up, I know we sat with a book, we sat with a magazine, we sat with an album when it came out and we, you know I'm saying we absorbed it for a month or two, you know, I mean before the next thing came out. Now it's like I couple minutes boom next on to the next thing.

Speaker 2:

You know what it is. It's like you know the whole thing going over the Stanley Cup joint no okay. So there is a cup, 40 ounce cup, greater box cup, called Stanley cup, costs about $45.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, so my sister's obsessed with them shits.

Speaker 2:

They're expensive as fuck for no reason right, you can get the same quality cup for same lesser price. It's just an insulated stainless steel mug, right?

Speaker 1:

I read it story they have accessories for these shits too. You could bedazzle them, you could put this on, you could put a keychain, you could put a cell phone holder stickers, whatever the fuck.

Speaker 2:

This is crazy but I read a story with I think it might have been in Alabama when it was a kid whose parents bought him $3,000 worth of cups of all colors and everything else like that, just to have. And I'm like it's like if someone has like an extensive car collection, you can only drive one car. You only have one cup if you want to put into a bunch of them. But it's like this is like their Pokemon cars, I guess, which is dumb. Like cuz, it's a cup. It's not gonna create value, anything else like that. But like, how much different is this than that Popeyes chicken shit? Like, when that sandwich came out, like people's, I did. People's I did actually fighting and getting in. You know these things over a fucking sandwich, not it doing over like a cup. Like people are rushing stores asking people like it's a cup. Like the stupid thing about the word viral is that. Is there any other point in your life where the word viral means something good's gonna happen? No, right, just this. Like oh, it's gone. Viral. Like I don't want nothing viral, trust me. Like flu Covid, but whatever, I don't want viral like. I want that eliminated from my personal lexicon, because the whole idea of saying that this is a thing and it's gonna be a thing for now it disappears. That's why we go back to the the date night thing. It disappears.

Speaker 2:

It is something that the conversation didn't get wiped away, kind of same thing with content. I don't listen to Podcasts or other shows when there's kind of just doing things for the sake of doing things, to kind of keep up in the rumor mill or keep up with the Churn of society. It's fine if you do it as a weekly thing and kind of talk about the week's events, all right, cool. But the thing when people like I need to create content, to create content like that's no fun. They just saying stuff to say stuff because you want to get things done. It should be something that Creates conversation. Like I would never talk about a 70 cup shit here because I just kind of explain it to you. It's kind of stupid. But I we're talking about it right. We're not having what we're having, like an in-depth discussion about like this is a Stanley Cup. This is stupid. Let's move on like that.

Speaker 1:

It's fine by me and then we have another review by somebody by the name of Anonymous, andrew. All right, anonymous Andrew. He says love this podcast. He gave it five stars. He says Jeff and Anthony All right, dynamic duo when hosting these, this podcast. Some amazing insights into the hip-hop community and pop culture events. Well, not a hip-hop fan, nor rap, nor do I know the difference, it doesn't matter what. Listening to this podcast, I found the episode. I found the episode with Jada Pinkett Smith very interesting, and also the episode about the list when not to bring your first date. Very well done, these guys are professionals. The audio is done Well. The show notes are impeccable. Give this product a listen, as I thought I wouldn't be interested and now I'm a follower. Good job, guys.

Speaker 2:

I know we shouldn't like insult the people that are writing comments. Thank you, how much, how much you?

Speaker 1:

paying. I'm not paying nobody for no reviews man.

Speaker 2:

He's like man I don't know shit about hip-hop, but man, but I like this shit. Yeah, cuz, cuz. I mean I guess the date thing kind of stuck, cuz it's like that whole conversation was done, like they had a whole list of places you don't want to go. Okay, just give me a list of places that you do want to go and let me take a look at, let's see if they're reasonable. Like what do you want to go for dinner? I want to go to dinner Dubai. No, no, no, no. No. You you want to grill cheese, some shit like that. Let's start at the bottom, work our way up, because I was enough for that degree doesn't need to be that.

Speaker 1:

So you also got to understand that there's people that'll just you know Whether they're driving, truck drivers or whatever the case may be. There's people that'll go into you know Apple podcast or whatever you know platform they use and just scroll and try to find something they like. You know what I mean. They'll just listen to podcast, and there's a lot of them, and then you know they might stumble upon our shit and be like, ah, this is interesting or whatever. It was fun.

Speaker 2:

We would be so successful in like Making money if we were just like far right ring and it was like a black guy to smash guy just talking about the ails or shit. Like I can't stand black but not doing better like You're pretty sure you need to vote for Trump.

Speaker 1:

Trump did more for the black community than any politician in history.

Speaker 2:

We'll get a rating, we'll get a rating, that's some shit like don't don't say that because I want your man to come on here and talk His point, so I don't want to speak about him.

Speaker 1:

He said he's down to come on around election time, so I guess towards the end of the year it's fine, I don't want to be one thing.

Speaker 2:

You start talking that crazy shit like you know what, because all this this stuff with the Mexicans and January 6th it was, it was all a guppin plot.

Speaker 1:

And someone just in driving just turning up like you're preaching the brother, like the integrity of the show, though I'm gonna need you to promise me that you're not gonna insult the fucking guest. Bro, I don't know, regardless if you agree or disagree with their opinions or views. You know I mean why do you not? Insult our guests.

Speaker 2:

What? Why had the asset of the guest that we have, have I insulted any of them?

Speaker 1:

No, but Instead you've just been silent. The old, the old saying if you don't got nothing nice to say, don't say none, as usually you. When we have a guest that you don't agree with, you just sit there quiet. Oh, I don't know shit. I doesn't help the show either.

Speaker 2:

I know, but I've been letting guests cook, but then I learned my lesson to start saying shit and interceding. Come on, we had conspiracy, do it. I think it was just yapping. He just kept going like bro, like what did you? Like? Yeah, yeah, I understand somebody. Like, yeah, next episode. Just like press fast for it, all right, but I don't. I think the people don't quite understand that Just because you support a particular candidate means to have a picture with you, personally or professionally or Any wise. This is your, this is who you view as you feel should be the leader of this country. I would just like to understand how you got to that point, or what is it that is such a drawing point? I don't think that biden would be that great of a choice, but I don't have much of another choice. And, like I said, he ain't bought my void yet. He got a couple more months to get the student shit. Student loan should take care of him. You do that, I'm easy. He's bought me. If I say dog, I see 10 grand right.

Speaker 2:

Right, you went with 10 grand a student.

Speaker 1:

So what if trump comes and says you know what? Biden ain't do it, but I'ma do it? First thing I'ma do is he raised to the debt. You gonna vote for him, Maybe god damn.

Speaker 2:

Because, because we don't really vote, I don't vote alone. Party lines, everyone votes alone in self-interest, everyone. That's a fact.

Speaker 1:

We're not everyone, not everyone. I'll correct more. I think most people do, the majority of Americans do the mayor in your town, right, and he's a lot of people do not all right.

Speaker 2:

So the mayor clifton, like I'm running on this campaign where I'm going like and you might not like the guy personally at all, I think the person running for office is a terrible human being. They say I think we need to do something to switch this economy. So what we're going to do, we're going to raise taxes by 8%. But what we're going to do is give every person A $500 monthly stipend for the next 12 months just to see if that helps them out. We do sign up for that. How much they're gonna give?

Speaker 1:

500,000 month to every resident per person, not per household. Per help offset the increase in taxes.

Speaker 2:

Right, because I'm we're going to raise taxes, but what we want to do is that we want to try to stimulate the economy.

Speaker 1:

I feel like that's what the stimulus checks are. I feel like that's what Biden and Trump did with the stimulus checks and every other president. They send us them, those, you know, the little money To keep us happy for a little bit right, but that was for we deal with inflation and tax increases in the housing fucking market Right but that's for $100, that for a year, so $500 per person for 12 months.

Speaker 1:

$6,000 a person, oh you mean a month, every month, right, I'm not I think I'm a sign off for that 500,000 month for the next 12 months.

Speaker 2:

That'll definitely offset the increase in tax. Right right, we're going to run a program because I think most people are aware that if they give you that money, you're not going to save it. You're probably going to spend the shit which is they want to put it right back into the economy.

Speaker 2:

They want to stimulate the economy, right? So basically, like, uh, it's like a gift card, it's like having a gift card to target. If I give it this gift card, you can't spend the shit nowhere else, you got to spend in that target, but it would influence your vote, right, yes, right. So we all have our own self-interest, the things that speak towards us, the things that we want to do. If you have children, if someone's speaking about child care, you want to have that.

Speaker 2:

If you live in a dangerous neighborhood, someone speaking about, uh, no law and order or you know better, utilization of the police or decreasing violence, and to speak to you, they all speak to you. In some way. You got to figure out what's message you want to take forward. So, the person that is a trump supporter I don't have, I won't have a problem with them at all I just want to understand what is the perspective you're seeing us at that believes that this person should be the leader Of this country, not of a town, but of the country, that's all so of course I've met minority trump supporters.

Speaker 1:

I've never, besides this one gentleman that I want to get on, I've having. I've never actually spoken to a black trump supporter. One of my friends is oh, really, yeah, okay, we get them on the show too, shit, and we don't. I'm curious to hear you know.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying like their opinions, there they're reasoning their logic and we don't see eye to eye on it at all. But that don't mean I love them any less. We just have that conversation like okay, Help me understand. Okay, but what about this? But we try to do it in a sense of a conversation. I'm not seeing here googling shit. But oh, but he said this or did that. Like, Help me see it from your view. Don't mean I'm going to agree with it, but I want to understand Maybe we get.

Speaker 1:

Maybe we could get both of them on at the same time. Yeah, he availed so it don't. So it don't seem like we're ganging up on them, you know. I mean, it's like be two of them.

Speaker 2:

They want to prick their brain, you're being.

Speaker 1:

I'm not gonna saw it? No, and I just want to understand, you know I mean.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think what people don't quite grasp is that there are people out there that are real assholes about this and get real sideways. I mean, like I don't want to argue with you, I just want to understand. And if I can get that and in the end we can still disagree, that's fine. But I still want to see what is your perspective on it's, how, what am I missing from what you're saying and what you're doing? That I'm not grasping. And once they do select, okay, I get it. I still disagree. But I now understand your perspective Doesn't mean it dislike is a person just want to get up better grasp before all this. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, let's, let's move along, man. Let's then piece to my man, carl Weathers, just passed away a couple days ago Aka Apollo Creed. To me he's always going to be known as Apollo Creed. If you're a Mandalorian fan, you're gonna. You know he's gonna be known to you as grief and cargo. Then I say that right. He was also Dylan in the Predator. No last name, he was just Dylan. Dylan, you son of a bitch, you son of a bitch, and it was the most explosive handshake in the history of cinema.

Speaker 2:

The epitome of masculine handshaking, history of handshakes Of all time. Like who? And the thing is, who shakes hands like that, like forearm grasp. Like Dylan, you, son of a beach.

Speaker 1:

And then you hear that you see the two steroid ass arms brolic and the camera just closes up on it for like three seconds.

Speaker 2:

And it just arm wrestling in midair Like this is weird. This shit was goofy as hell. So it's a brief cargo creed, depending on what age we're on.

Speaker 1:

If you're probably black, he was in the new Grunkowski commercial with the Superbowl. He was action Jackson. He was a good actor, though, man.

Speaker 2:

And he was funny because he was great happy humor.

Speaker 1:

He was a good actor. I think he made that Rocky series, bro Like he wasn't even supposed to be the Apollo, it was supposed to be a boxer. What was his name? Norton?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Ken Norton.

Speaker 1:

Ken Norton was supposed to do it. That shit wouldn't have been right.

Speaker 2:

Ken could not. That's what he didn't do. It yeah, man, yeah. And then I saw a thing that Sufis Salon said he regretted killing Apollo.

Speaker 1:

That's always been the knock on the Rocky franchise. Like I feel like he killed everybody off too quickly. Like every movie, somebody gets killed off, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like but he said that when he regret it, he thought, like you know, maybe Drago wins but beats the living hell out of him. But he's like Leave him disabled or something. Right, right, he disabled or something after that. So he becomes his Mickey, like that. But then the Creed franchise doesn't work out if he's alive.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but also I think they've dropped the ball but not being able to utilize him in the Creed franchise. I would have loved to see Carl Weathers more involved in the Creed franchise. Whether, as you know, flashbacks you know, michael B Jordan is having a dream and he comes out you know what I'm saying In his dreams and give him advice, or he just you know he sees his ghost. You know, somewhat like the way Rocky used to always see Mickey, right? Mickey used to always come up on Rocky and give him advice and you know he would always talk to him in his mind or whatever the fuck Right. So if they did something like that in Creed, where Michael B Jordan is going through some and then you see Carl Weathers comes out and give his son advice, like look my son, you know I wasn't in your life, but I'm here now and after life and this is what you got to do. You know what I'm saying. You know shit like that.

Speaker 2:

They don't do it, but they kind of do it and that's like. So there's three preys, right, yeah, right. So they kind of do it in the first one and that's like, of all the scenes and all the creeds in my favorite one. But all they do is show a picture of him. I know like, but when he gets dropped, like like he hears his mother talking, you see the pictures, he just like snaps out of it. He's like it just wakes up, like, like that's the thing, like, like I want to beat him but I want to supersede him. Like he finally has this clear vision of Apollo Because, like I said, he never saw, I mean outside of video, he never really saw his father fighting a ring Right, but in a moment he needed him Most, he sees his father pop up and just like snaps back to life, like, oh, now he's alive, like, yeah, that's great, but yeah, carl Weathers was.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't know what the beef was between Carl Weathers and Stallone, why he couldn't use none of his footage, because he didn't want him using none of his footage. So one picture is all they show in the entire creed franchise.

Speaker 2:

Stallone, really, you know, stallone, really be on some bullshit though. Really, like, like, I'm glad three he's not in it at all. Like, you don't really need to be the centerpiece of this shit. Like, like, as a franchise, you move forward without you Because, like, because you're old, how much more rocky do you want If you wanted to?

Speaker 1:

He could still be the trainer, though. I mean, mickey was his trainer. Mickey was old as fuck. Mickey was like 80 years old, still training Rocky.

Speaker 2:

He was, but the keys to the movie was always Rocky. And then, like I said, mickey dies too, right? Everyone in the rocket mix dead. Apollo's dead, his wife's dead, his brother-in-law's dead, all in person live is his son, is a grandson, grandson's Grandchildren.

Speaker 1:

Let's say that they don't even fuck with someone that much he ain't even cool with his son like that.

Speaker 2:

No, it just popped up at the end of two, like he just went to go see his grandkids and shit like that. That was it. Like it's just not, it's a franchise that should let go forward. I'm like I don't know how, like I know the ideas may be getting the daughter involved, but I'm like and I don't want to really sound sexist about this but no one's really interested in watching. Well, they open the door for that in the last one, right, I know, I know.

Speaker 2:

And I'm just saying understanding the kind of general masculinity of a male audience. They're really not going to want to watch twin box. I know, I think it's a great idea in theory. Like I said, he's supposed to be retired. Then he kind of moves it forward, Sure.

Speaker 1:

And the thing is, apollo, I don't know Creed's character is based off of Muhammad Ali Mm-hmm. He's Muhammad Ali, basically, mm-hmm, the shit talker showman. He was fast as a motherfucker, you know, nice as hell in the ring and he gives a chance to this dude who almost beats him. You know what I'm saying. He makes a name for himself. In real life, muhammad Ali has a daughter who's a boxer Mm-hmm and the movie he has a son. Now the son has a daughter you know what I mean who's going to eventually become a boxer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because Apollo Creed was a dancing destroyer. The Count of Monte Fisto my favorite name, the Count of Monte Fisto that's dope, but that's the whole thing he's based off of him. But I'd never really liked Rocky because it seemed unrealistic Because, like I said, he's a boxer a little, while the whole idea of someone taking that kind of punishment and still being alive, nah.

Speaker 1:

He had like 10 tag names. It was like the Sultan of Swap or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the Dancing Destroyer, the Count of Monte Fisto, he's running them all off, but he's facing Drago. Right, he had like eight names of like y'all still ain't finished, yet he like do you have enough names Like you?

Speaker 1:

know who came out with. Who's the dude he came out with? Uh?

Speaker 2:

Apollo. Apollo came out with Rocky.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying when. Who was performing when he came out? Oh, james Brown. He comes out with James Brown, comes out with like 10 different nicknames and he gets killed in like two rounds.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. It was the King of Sting, the Dancing Destroyer, the Prince of Punch, the Count of Monte Fisto and the Master of Disaster. Nah, I think you're missing something.

Speaker 1:

I think there was like the Sultan of something.

Speaker 2:

I don't care, those are great names. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 1:

Those are good ass names, bro.

Speaker 2:

Those are great names, man, and, like I said, I remember him. That's probably second for what I remember him for. I remember him mostly probably from Happy Gilmore, I'm sorry, just having chubs, the guy with the wooden hand. It's hilarious to me. It doesn't get funny, spoken like a true asshole Trying to teach happy how to golf. Like stupid, it's tapping and tapping, all right.

Speaker 1:

So let's stick to sports. We got the Super Bowl coming up in a couple weeks and we got to do our Super Bowl predictions, do it. But also I find it funny that you know, I mean, we're excited for Usher doing the halftime and I would have definitely much rather see him than Taylor Swift. But Taylor Swift was the NFL's first choice when they were calling up people to see who wanted to participate in the Super Bowl halftime. They called her first because, besides Bad Bunny, she is, you know, the most popular artist in the world. Is that safe to say?

Speaker 2:

Fair enough.

Speaker 1:

She turns it down right.

Speaker 2:

Which I would have to Fuck.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not doing it, which I would have to. Proceeds to start dating Travis Kelsey, tight end of the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City Chiefs are now in the Super Bowl again. Thank you, patrick, we're going to see her now in the Super Bowl, anyways.

Speaker 2:

No, she's going to be the biggest story Because the reason why, right, she's going to be the biggest story Her getting there is a bigger story Because she has a performance, I think at Japan, so she would have to leave that performance after it's done the next day before right.

Speaker 2:

To the little fly that she had the basic helicopter from wherever she's performing to the airport, from the airport to fly over to Las Vegas. It's easier because it's on the West Coast, so it's easier for her to get there to try to make it in time for the school, both. So don't be surprised if you see like a Taylor watch, like Taylor's leaving. Taylor's performing in Japan, taylor's leaving now Taylor's on the private jet, taylor's heading up. She's here, folks, and I and I get it and I get it. I understand because she's most popular star in the world, because we would do the same thing. It feels Michael Jackson, if Michael Jackson really were like, oh, I don't know, let's say, michael Jackson's cousin Happen to be a running back for some team making a Super Bowl, if he said this is my family member, I really want to be there and I'm going to do this. We would do the same thing because that's the level that she's on.

Speaker 1:

We might not want to admit that doesn't make it any less cringe, though.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't, but the whole thing is like that. This is the world that we live in with. We're entertained by these things of Not her being there, but just the process of her being there, like it's you know. It's like you know how, around Christmas time, they always have the thing for the Santa Tracker. Yeah, you can see exactly where he's at watching the thing. It'll be that, clearly, it'll be that and it's fine, because we have to be entertained somehow, because this game seems like it's gonna be pretty fucking boring. It's not anything against the teams like Patrick. My home is just that good. He's there all the time. You know this, cuz you don't dislike him. When the Patriots made it, you really wanted Brady to lose, but Patrick's Like.

Speaker 2:

I just need.

Speaker 1:

I just, I just need people to slow down with this narrative that he's already the best quarterback of all time. Like, let's relax. Okay, he's been in three Super Bowls, you know, I mean, he's really good for his age. He's the things that he's doing at his age, you know, or unprecedented. But let's wait, you know, I mean let's wait another 10, 15 more years before we have this discussion. I'm not ready to put him above Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, you know, I mean, I'm just not ready to do that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm only putting him behind Brady right now, that's it of all time. Yeah, I'm not even the stats guy, but look at the stats. Yeah, I know, I've seen him. Just stupid. What is this? This is his six year. This is his fourth Super Bowl.

Speaker 1:

And he got like what, how many playoff wins? Like something like 14, something like that and that's the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

I think Peyton Manning and his whole career had 14 Bruh. You got it. It's impressive, that's impressive, but you also have to account. Longevity means some. You know I'm saying like I hear people when I argue, people about the LeBron and Jordan debate, they tell me the you know you are. Lebron has played 20 years and I'm not taking that away from him. Yes, part of being one of the greatest is showing up to work. You know I mean like you got to show up and yeah, you know LeBron gets points for being good for 20 straight years. But you, you know I'm not gonna take shit away from Jordan because he retired three different times because he got so bored with the fucking sport that he had to leave. There was no competition for him. You know I mean. But yeah, you got to take everything into account longevity, stats, championships as much as people want to say now you can, yeah, championships plays a big role and whether you consider the go to net.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, it does. Oh, I shouldn't, but it does. But it kind of comes out to the fact that it's his full Super Bowl in five years and, god's sake, forever Like that's back. Damn, damn, merino never got there. What.

Speaker 1:

You gotta remember it's a team sport. Can you tell me that in the in his first five years he hasn't had a better team than, like Brady did his first five years of, peyton Manning did his first five years?

Speaker 2:

Did, but that's why this one's the most impressive, because it's a part of the worst team of them all that often sucks.

Speaker 1:

They drive his Kelsey's the best tight end in the whole game.

Speaker 2:

Which, but he didn't do much. Like I said, they only scored 17 against Baltimore. Baltimore shot themselves in the foot. Could they stop running the ball?

Speaker 1:

Right. So that's an. That's a negative against my home. No, no shit, the second half of that game.

Speaker 2:

We got here like y'all got yourself to shrug and I don't know what it is about facing him, but it's kind of fall apart. But they didn't do anything. Like I'm not I'm not falsing patching my homes, because the whole thing is that he goes super bowl is not like he don't want the other side, he's facing the same team again. The NFL sip the silicone like the church hasn't made it that far in 30 plus years and Baltimore has been in and out. All the other teams have had some kind of turnover change. The only the only thing that's happened with Ken City is that it's been Andy Reed. It's been patching my homes. That's it, and even in four out of five times it's hard to argue against it.

Speaker 1:

So let's go with our prediction who you got 49ers, 49ers too.

Speaker 2:

I got the 49ers too.

Speaker 1:

You said all that shit just to say you got the 49ers.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm saying that man been in four times in five years. I think they're going to lose this year if everybody healthy.

Speaker 1:

I think 49ers. For a long time I got the 49ers. I think they defense is going to come through.

Speaker 2:

You know, the biggest problem is they coach. Because they coach, you get cute the wrong fucking time. Remember man, that's the same coach that blew a 23 lead to New England. If you up 25 points or you just run the ball second half, you got to fall out. He get too cute and I don't want him to get cute this time. You got playmakers. Get him the ball.

Speaker 1:

I got the Niners and I think it'll be a low scoring game. You know what I mean, Like couple possessions, you know couple. Let me see what score if I had to predict the score.

Speaker 2:

I say 24, 17.

Speaker 1:

That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 2:

Because that defense good, but I don't think it's keeping Patrick out of the end zone. I think the Niners just has enough on defense and got way more weapons on offense that it should be. We get the job done.

Speaker 1:

Are we excited about usher? Yeah, what happens if usher put fucks around and brings Taylor Swift on stage real quick? I don't think it would happen, because I would. That would take off the shine off of him. But you imagine that shit.

Speaker 2:

I could imagine. But it's not going to happen because I remember the thing. But you remember the thing I told you about how much it paid to perform a Super Bowl and she's not going to perform two nights in a row, especially for free.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. That's why she's not. If she does a Super Bowl halftime show, they're going to have to pay her a lot, because I'm doing concerts where, like, from ticket sales, I'm probably making like $5 million a night, like it's a lot. I mean that's just tickets and merchandise and all this. It's a lot. So you all think you're going to get me through this here for free for what you would consider a free advertising. She don't need that. She fine. That's never going to happen, so I'm not actually doing that. It's his show. They're talking him all the time. He's been in Vegas, all the time. It's one of the biggest acts in Vegas. They're having it in Las Vegas. It's his time to shine. I hope he puts on a good show. I know he only has like 14 minutes, so I don't know how he going to blend this all together. I figured I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1:

Let's wrap up, man, I want to ask you looking for them, fucking commercials or whatever.

Speaker 2:

The fuck am I being?

Speaker 1:

I'm actually bro. We haven't. We haven't had a guest on besides Mikey she. I don't even consider him a guest, no more. He's just a resident member of the show. Now you feel me, I'm an actual guest, that we an actual interview. We haven't had one in a while. It's been a minute, okay, you know what I mean. So I got some guests lined up. I want to hear from the people or they prefer, you know, us shooting the breeze with. They want to hear some interviews. You know what I mean. They want to hear us interviewing people and have some guests come on, hit us up. I have a bunch of guests lined up, so maybe we start doing that pretty soon, bringing some people on the show.

Speaker 1:

The problem with having guests is that you know what I mean the timetables never line up. You know what I mean. Either we can't do with the days they can or they can't do with the days we can, or the hours that we you know what I mean the time of the day. You know it becomes the whole logistics shit. And you would think that the fact that it's remote, you know it'd be easier, because some people just do like in person interviews. I'm like nah, bro, just hop on the computer. We do this shit remotely man.

Speaker 2:

Nigga said oh goddamn studio, fuck you. No, fuck you. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean so, but we'll get it sorted out. We're going to start having some guests on man. All types of different guests. Diversify our portfolio for 2024.

Speaker 2:

You sure about that? Yes, all right, I'm going to take you to a whole different route when you come on, but no problem.

Speaker 1:

Again, as long as you don't insult, I'm not, I'm not going to. The integrity of the program. I'm not going to.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to start the body or turn to integrity of the program, but he's going to start yapping. I'm going to be like yo, yo, yo. Next point let's wrap it up. Let's talk about my wrap it up box Right over there.

Speaker 2:

All right, man I don't mind it, let's have a more than one to talk. Bring something quality to the table, pitch the shit and get into the conversation. That's it. Don't like well, I was that, that, that, that, that that that Stage point. This is what the conversation is about. We brought you to talk about this conversation there. We go From there.

Speaker 2:

Because every time we get to my own, it's just start yapping about the shit they doing. Like all right, cool, like do that? We're going to clear the base for you to take your first two minutes. Tell us about who you are, what's your project. Da, da, da, da.

Speaker 2:

Then we have a point we want to talk to you about that point. Because if you talk to again, like, let's say, you want to talk to someone about, like gender and sexuality, like all right, tell us your platitudes and this is the thing that we're talking about. What's your opinion on it? Because when they just get the yapping, I've been like yo just just tune me out. So it's not that I got a problem with guess, it's more in the sense that when they start, blah, blah, blah, yap, yap, yap, I'm like, hmm, don't really care for that, because you're just rambling on.

Speaker 2:

I want you to have a particular question that you would like to ask that you figure that they will be interested in talking about. It'd be fine as a matter of fact, would have been perfect if we had a woman who either agreed or disagree with the whole day thing and it's kind of got a her perspective on it, like this is what's going on, like how do you feel about this thing, whether agreed or disagree? Then have that conversation about that. But who are we rambling on about the project and doing? I don't care.

Speaker 1:

All right, man, leave the people off with some final words. Man for the culture.

Speaker 2:

It is Black History Month. It's one of those things that we kind of regrettably take for granted about things that are important. You have to realize that during this month, and I want you to take your time and think about it. I want you to I don't know walk into your bedroom and I want you to just take a look around and I want you to see everything that Black culture has influenced man, your dress, your clothes, the things you watch, the things you wear, the items you bought, like.

Speaker 2:

We are ingrained inside of this and it's good to always have a month to kind of know and have some kind of reflection about the impact and importance that we have in this culture. Should we have monetized it better? Sure, that's a conversation for another day. This is a moment of appreciation to realize all that Black culture has done for America and that you should always pay homage to those that came before you. Pay attention to the trend, because we're the ones that create them, and realize that this is a month for celebration of all cultures, but specifically ours. Just give us our due respect in our time. You got 11 more months to yourself, but just let us show you the great things that we've done great things we've done for the society and just say thank you. The culture, Take that in for a taste.

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