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Life Changes, Hip-Hop Legends, and New Beginnings: We're Back!
Can you imagine discovering a serious health condition out of the blue? Join us as we catch up after a three-month break, sharing personal stories and life updates that have kept us on our toes. From Jeff's move from Jersey to Pennsylvania to Ant's alarming hospital visit that uncovered elevated blood pressure and a kidney infection, our return episode is packed with revelations. Ant opens up about his new health regimen and how he's staying resilient despite the diagnosis of cirrhosis of the liver—proving the importance of a positive outlook in the face of adversity.
Our conversation takes some unexpected turns as we debate near-assassination attempts on former President Trump and the gun culture in Florida, then transition to the rich tapestry of Hip Hop's influence. We reminisce about iconic albums—Biggie's "Ready to Die," Nas' "Illmatic," and Lauryn Hill's "Miseducation"—and share our excitement for upcoming concerts. From heated discussions about old-school hip hop to the impact of these legends on today's music scene. Also, the story of Lauryn Hill popping up at a local bar.
As the episode wraps up, we explore lighter yet equally engaging topics. From the comfort of hoodie weather and a fantasy football bet to a recent incident involving NFL star Tyreek Hill, which sparks a dialogue about compliance and racial bias. Finally, we critique Super Bowl performer picks and the dynamic between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, pondering the possibility of a future collaboration. Tune in for a heartfelt and spirited episode filled with gratitude, shoutouts, and a promise of new merchandise for our loyal Culture Crew listeners.
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Yo, yo yo, we're back. Yo, we're finally back after a long hiatus, the longest hiatus that the culture has ever taken. We've been gone for what, ant? About three months. The summer, yeah, no, it's been like three months since the last time I recorded. You haven't recorded in longer than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty much been off the whole summer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I did. I think I did one or two episodes with Mikey G. You know what I'm saying. Like it's just a lot has been going on. You know what I'm saying, with your help, if you want to touch on that. I moved. I moved from Jersey to PA. Be in your house in the Pokemon Mountains. We out here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, we out here. Yeah, you're right, I did Got a nice little pool or anything else like that. I'm going to come out there soon enough.
Speaker 1:So that's keeping me super busy. You need to come through though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but since the health thing, that shit's sorted out, I was in the hospital. Yeah, fine, I was in the hospital.
Speaker 1:People were worried about you, brother Like yo, where at now I'm like yo, so I was at work and I was like I felt off.
Speaker 2:I couldn't like describe it, but I felt really, really off. And all of a sudden I felt like this hard-ass beat in my chest and I was like I got to go now, like I need to leave, I need to go to the hospital, like he said, and I wasn't going to call, wait for them to give me an ambulance. I know it's stupid, I know it's dumb, but I drove myself to the hospital, dangerous as fuck, jesus Christ. Well, because the whole thing with the COVID thing, my brain got a little bit twisted up. I'm going to control my own life. If I'm going to go to the hospital, I'm going to go to the hospital.
Speaker 2:So it started there. I went there and then all of a sudden, they got me strapped to machines, they got an IV, they all had all kinds of nonsense going on. So they do that, run some tests. And they was like we just want to make sure you're okay. I'm like, okay, what seems to be the problem? And they were like well, one of two things, you okay. So they gave me something for my blood pressure. It's not extremely high, just a little bit higher than usual, but it's okay. But then all of a sudden it was like well, we did your blood test and kidneys is a little meh, like okay, I'm like what do you mean? They're like well, the guy pokes me in the back so he's feeling a thing here. No, pokes me again, so he's feeling a thing. I says no.
Speaker 2:They're like okay, so it's like okay. So it's going to be one of two things Either A, you got a kidney infection that you can't feel which is surprising, most people do feel it or two, you're at the beginning stages of kidney failure. Now like huh, interesting.
Speaker 1:But he looks at me.
Speaker 2:But that's the whole thing. I don't drink like that. I have a beer, but you know me well enough. If we have it, I get together, Let me get another, get another, get another. I might have a shot your sister poured and that's really it. The rest of y'all keep on getting down, but not really so. They put me some medication for like three weeks. I'm trying to get myself together. I can't sleep, I'm in and out of it.
Speaker 2:Then they find out like it was kind of like a, really it was like a bad infection. The doctor said again, that's strange, you get a slight kidney infection, Like you're hurting. You weren't like okay, all right, it's good to know. And then I'm going to tell you, and I'll tell everybody listening for the first time. Everybody's going to know.
Speaker 2:I go for a follow-up and a doctor. Then he says okay, your kidney's fine. Okay, we want to send you for some follow-up blood work. And they do it again. Then they say, well, this is a bit elevated. Like, all right, doc, what the fuck is it? He's like well, we're going to need you to send you in for a biopsy on your liver. And I'm like really, so you have to go inside, take out a little piece. Yeah, yeah, It'll be fine. They go ahead, they do the biopsy. I think four days ago they said well, you don't have liver damage to that degree, but it looks like you have cirrhosis. I said of the, but it looks like you have cirrhosis, I said of the liver. How the fuck does cirrhosis of the liver? I'm not an alcoholic. He's like we don't know. We're going to do some more tests. So if you look at my face, you see a little thinner and shit like that.
Speaker 2:You look like you lost weight too, Motherfucker, it's hard to eat and drink and shit like that, and keep fucking with your body. So yeah, I lost it and yeah, I'm with you, but not like that Bunch of vegetables, bunch of chicken, shitload of water, stuff like that. So they're going to see what's going on in my liver. Now it's nothing to worry about, and I was like yo man, you said that before. It's nothing to worry about, so I'm not bothered, it's just some other shit's going on with me. I ain't dead. I mean, I did that before. This shit wasn't cool. So outside of this, I just gotta take care. I mean, just enjoy my life while it is and not trip out. So I won't trip out, Just keep being here and do what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Welcome back, brother. Thank you. Happy that you're back, happy that you're healthy, somewhat Getting there, at least Yo. But a lot of shit has happened since we've been gone. Fucking president almost got assassinated. Well, former President Trump almost got assassinated. They saying twice, not once but twice All right.
Speaker 2:But the second one I don't agree upon calling it an assassination. I don't. It's Florida. They said they saw somebody near the golf course, 400 yards away, with a GoPro and a rifle. Now Florida's an open carry state. They never said the guy took a shot at him. If you shoot at somebody that's an assassination attempt. They never attempted to assassinate him. He just a white guy walking around florida with a camera and a gun.
Speaker 1:that's not really that unusual if you think about it I mean, if you ask me, bro, to me the whole shit is a hoax. That first one was a hoax, if you ask me. But you know we're not trying to get too conspiratorial.
Speaker 2:No, that's the shit you look. You look conspiratorial.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Not today, but what else happened, man? Yo hip hop made it to the Olympics. You talking about that bitch pop locking With the break dancing. The women's shit was embarrassing, but the men's shit was alright.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it got so bad they eliminated it at the one year. They're like we're not doing this shit, no more. Yeah, we out. But they should do it next year because if it's going to be in LA with all the crunkers and everything else, like that, it'd be perfect.
Speaker 1:They should bring freestyling bro to the Olympics. Yo, battle rapping and some shit, have a. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:A rap Olympics, the battle rap team. They got too many priors. They can't have them on a national stage.
Speaker 1:They probably can't do shit like that because of the language barriers. You know what I'm saying. They can't do that. They could do the dancing, because it's universal.
Speaker 2:The language barrier is the cursing. That's the barrier. Can't be out there spitting balls Talking amongst my mamas.
Speaker 1:When I saw that shit, I was like yo, hip hop is everywhere, man. And speaking of hip hop is everywhere, biggie made it into the Marvel Comics and I got mine. Only 3,000 copies were made and you got one of them, and I got one of them. Biggie trying to separate Wolverine and Deadpool from fucking each other up. He's in the middle like yo, fellas, this ain't it. I haven't read it yet because I'm afraid to open it. I don't want to fuck it up because this shit might be, worth one day.
Speaker 1:I do want to read it, though.
Speaker 2:I want to see what Biggie got to say in this shit oh, that's what you got to say, speaking of that, you, what Biggie got to say in this shit? Oh, that's what you got to say, speaking of that. You know it's the 30th anniversary of Ready to Die. Where does that fall? All time for you, not him.
Speaker 1:Just that album. Ready to Die? The album. It's in my top 10. It's probably. I mean, we've done the top 5 before. It's not in my top 5. Because we know I got DMX, lauren Hill, wu Tang Nas. I forget what my fifth one is, but I think I have, yeah, I got big in the top 10.
Speaker 2:Ready to die, I mean the fact he writes that album. He's what? 22 years old Because he's dead by 25? Yep.
Speaker 1:Come on now, as grown men, 20 plus years later, as grown men, we're in our 40s and we're still talking about an album where the guy was 20 years old and we're still putting that. I guess all of them, even Nas. What was he when he dropped Dillmatic 19? Yeah, and these albums are probably forever going to be in our top five, our top tens. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like I always say, I always hated that Nas' first album was that. Oh, it's still Because it's hard, like I mean he's made some very.
Speaker 1:that's not even my favorite Nas album I am is but the fact that he set the bar so high with his very first album, fucked a lot of people up how many people do you know, with their first album, come out with a classic? Not many, and everybody was going platinum in the 90s. That that's the joke. Everybody was platinum. But no, he set the bar so high that it's hard to top that, and everybody's first album is usually their best album. But that Illmatic is probably better than everybody else's first album.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it's a lot of first albums, but the whole thing with something like that comes down to the fact that you have that million right. People say, like all the rappers, they all had a million, but it doesn't mean that they're going to be memorable, like just the fact that his best work is one of the best works. The Lauryn Hill thing One album, one shot, one kill, and it's University of Cleveland, one of the greatest albums ever. No matter what she did afterward, if she decided to make a follow-up to Miseducation, it's going to pale in comparison to Miseducation, because you're going to compare everything she does to that. That's why I was so excited to hear a verse from her on a Nas thing Like, oh man, that's the Lord I remember, but you still don't want. You don't want a follow-up, you don't want something to fuck up.
Speaker 1:My sources are telling me she's working on another project that she wants to drop before the year's over.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm going to tell you a story. I didn't go. I didn't go.
Speaker 1:But um, you didn't go where you went to the Usher concert.
Speaker 2:Oh, hold up, we're going to get there, all right.
Speaker 1:You went to the Roots concert.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I always go. But I didn't really like it this year, like it's way too many people who are fucking hot and crowded. That's why I didn't want to fucking talk about it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you didn't go to the Lauren shit that she was doing here. Which, lauren Lauren Hill, we're getting there. All right, go ahead.
Speaker 2:So it's this bar and restaurant near West Orange and they were having. I think it might have. I think it might have been like Maplewood, nah, maplewood. I think Maplewood might have been having like a class reunion sometimes like that, and Lauryn Hill casually walks in there, does a couple songs, takes a picture with a couple people, she leaves.
Speaker 1:Wait unannounced.
Speaker 2:Unannounced.
Speaker 1:Oh shit.
Speaker 2:Remember she's from the Maplewood, South Nigeria.
Speaker 1:Was she trying to do a little trial run to see what the reception is?
Speaker 2:No, it was like they were holding a class reunion there and I guess word got back to her. She walks in, says hi to a couple people, goes by the DJ booth does like three songs.
Speaker 1:Wait, this was her high school graduation class. That was there. No, no, it was like an all reunion class.
Speaker 2:Oh Right, it wasn't like she was a guest or anything, she just popped up, pops up. I gotta find a fucking.
Speaker 1:She was like give me the mic.
Speaker 2:Yeah and does a couple songs, chills with the people, and then she just leaves God damn Like on some friendship so they got a free Lauryn Hill concert.
Speaker 1:That would have been a night to remember For them. It probably was. I'm sure the fucking venue was pissed. They're like yo. I wish you would have been coming. We would have charged some motherfuckers at the door.
Speaker 2:I know you could have, but the thing about life is sometimes you got to create moments, and this is just one of them like it's one of the things that you get older.
Speaker 2:You tell somebody like one day I was in a bar somewhere and we were celebrating class reunion and lauren hill shows up. What you're hoping is that your kid says that's cool and that your kid doesn't say well, who's lauren hill? Then you have a problem. But this shit was awesome. Okay, the usher shit was dope. I randomly got tickets for my cousin my cousin can't fucking drive and it was like I want to see Usher. I'm like I don't really want to see Usher because I saw Usher a couple years ago in a park for Bruce's picnic. He's like, yeah, but I got these tickets. My homegirl can't go. Whatever Usher puts on the show, he's on his roller skates. They're having a good old time. The funny part it was like Auntie Fess 2024.
Speaker 2:It was, but it was a lot of older ladies there. It was like older than me. It was like a lot of aunts there. It was like a 30 to 1 male to female ratio. You forget Usher's like 50. No, he's 45. He is, he's 45 years old. So he's about your age. Yeah, he's not that old. But there was a lot of old women in with some very young girl outfits on which.
Speaker 1:I found kind of hilarious.
Speaker 2:Like I said, the ratio is about, I could say, 30 to 1. That's probably low. All the dudes in there were just kind of pissed. They just looked disappointed. They didn't want to be there. The girl wanted to go, so they just kind of sit back and cool. But some songs they had to get up, man listen it was amazing.
Speaker 1:I don't want to go. I bought two tickets and I tell wifey to take one of her homegirls or whoever. You know what I'm saying. I bought wifey two tickets to go see Marc Anthony. I didn't want to go see Mark Anthony, but I bought him for her. I wasn't. No, I ain't go. She went with another shorty. Oh, you didn't go. No, I'm not going to sit through with Mark Anthony.
Speaker 2:I thought you would Well. Mark Anthony ain't Usher though.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? I know the man can sing. He's talented, I'm not going to sit through that. So I know she likes Mark Anthony. So I got her two tickets and she chooses who she wants to go with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Mark ain't Usher, Mark ain't Anthony Mark ain't Anthony. Nah, but Usher.
Speaker 1:I'll go see Usher. I'll see Usher. He can, he could dance. You know what I'm saying. I definitely would see that shit.
Speaker 2:Like you know, he does his shit, but apparently the Barclays show was live. He brought out Swiss, he brought out Timbaland.
Speaker 1:But no Swiss. But that's the thing you expect them to bring. You expect these guys to bring people. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:He does it every city, whoever the person in the city he did Like in Detroit, he brought up Big Sean. He brings out the rap. Back when I was in Philly he brought out I think the first night it was Freeway. I think he was there for two nights in a row. I think the second night. I don't think he brought out Free two nights in a row, but someone else from Philly.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. He got songs with most of these people. If he's in Atlanta, he could bring out Jerm of dudes that he got songs with.
Speaker 2:But that's the whole thing. If I was him and I'm in Atlanta I'm not bringing out nobody else.
Speaker 1:I'm the king of the city, but I'm saying he can, though he can, because he got songs with all the legends from Atlanta. But anyways, yo, I just wanted to talk to the Patreons real quick, the Culture Crew man, at least the ones that stuck with us through this time. First of all, I appreciate y'all shout outs to the coach crew. Um, I'm gonna put a hold on your patreon, so I'm not gonna, you know, I mean, so y'all, y'all, you're not gonna get dubbed it for at least three months debited you ain't got to pay put it that way for at For at least three months.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. As a thank you, I also got merch right now in the bag that's being prepared for y'all. Got some ill merch being prepared. It's winter time, winter time is coming, so I got some hoodies coming your way. You feel me.
Speaker 2:Are you a summer dude or a fall dude?
Speaker 1:I like fall. I don't like too cold, I don't like too hot Spring and fall is perfect, right.
Speaker 2:I mean that's 60, 70 degrees.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Hoodie weather I could throw a hoodie with some shorts. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mine's going to be spring, no fall, spring, fall, spring, winter, summer, always said over there, but hit me too high yeah.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the culture cool, appreciate y'all. I got merch coming through. Shout out to mikey she, his birthday's coming up. Hey, son, getting big as fuck, big as a motherfucker. All he do is post videos of this little motherfucker eating just eating shit. He a savage and playing pickleball. Shout outs to Kaiser Kaiser, two things. First of all, y'all got an ongoing bet on the fantasy right. Head to head $100 head to head. Y'all got two head to head matchups, alright. So I'm just reminding both of y'all throwing that out there.
Speaker 2:I don't need to be reminded man. Just tell a man when he lose, zell me that evening so that Monday whatever, whatever the closing is just give me my money because I'm not going to have to pay you when y'all play y'all. Play next week, right, it's a week or week after, it don't matter. Like yo, I'm going to get the best deal. I made the bet. He agreed to it. We're going to pay fair and square If he lose.
Speaker 1:Don't sleep on your laurels, bro. He picked up Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson can go off at any given week.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck. Have my money, I don't care.
Speaker 1:And Tyreek Hill. Oh, we could talk about Tyreek Hill too, but the man also has Tyreek Hill. Any given game.
Speaker 2:What you're going to talk about the cop being a little bit too aggressive with him. I could go either way, come on, I don't need you to cuff me. That dude was super cheap. He was crazy as fuck. Man Don't do that. There's the thing he was speeding Sure.
Speaker 1:He didn't have a seatbelt on.
Speaker 2:Great.
Speaker 1:That being said, yeah, it might have been a little excessive. My thing is this and I'm not defending the police, by no means. Sound like you're about to know. And I know he was on his way to the game, but it was like he still had like a good two hours. You know I'm saying, but you know, you got to get there, prep, you know, do your scrimmages and practices and go through the plays. Yes, so he was probably running late, so he was speeding. Okay, just pull your window down, man. I'm just saying you know he coming over, he's gonna ask for the paperwork. Just pull the window down, bro. Pull the window down if you tell the police. The guy it seemed like he didn't even know who he was. He ain't know who. One of the cops identified him. The initial cop who was tapping on his window. Like yo put the window down, I'm going to break the shit. He ain't know who Tyreek Hill was, bro, and he sounded like he was some Spanish motherfucker. But yo, just put the window down, give them the paperwork if you have it, and be like look, officer, my bad, I was probably speeding. I'm on my way to the stadium. I'm about to be late. I got a game. If you don't recognize wham, I'm tyreek hill. I got a game in a couple of hours. I gotta get to the stadium, my bad.
Speaker 1:The policeman would have probably been like oh shit, my bad, yo here, man, let me give you an autograph. You want to take a couple of pictures? Let me be on my way? And that would have probably been like, oh shit, my bad, yo here, man, let me give you an autograph. You want to take a couple of pictures? Let me be on my way. And that would have been it. But you get belligerent. You don't want to pull the window down. Like why you tapping on my shit? You know what I mean. Like, all of this shit is not necessary by either party. You don't got to getent if you're, you know, I mean the driver. Like you know. I mean, pull the window down, show him your license, tell him what's going on. He would have been like oh shit, yo, can you give me an autograph? All right, my bad, they'll probably escort you. They probably would have escorted you to the stadium and gotten you there even faster, and that would have been it. But now you know when we do this whole shit. I thought he was gonna get. But it turns out he played he made it in time, actually played that game.
Speaker 1:The policeman might get fired. He got sent home. Yeah, there might be a lawsuit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's unfortunate, whatever Okay, but I mean all of this shit could have been avoided. Man, I just don't understand, like why? Why, you know? Just comply, just put your window down. You was speeding. My bad say you was speeding. I gotta be at the stadium and that's it can I make a counterpoint?
Speaker 2:go ahead when you're on your free time, right. What I want you to do is go to go to YouTube, right, and just type in white people while in over tickets and like, remember, he's a, I know what you're about to say. No, go to YouTube right and just type in white people while in over tickets.
Speaker 1:And like remember, he's a multi-millionaire NFL star.
Speaker 2:He's a multi-millionaire NFL star.
Speaker 1:You're about to say that white people do the worst and don't get the treatment.
Speaker 2:They don't get cuffed, they don't do shit. I get it. Offices bitch clean up and them white people be going to fuck off of them cops. They be motherfucking up and down, tearing up tickets, driving away. You don't see them in cuffs Talking about being disrespectful.
Speaker 1:I've seen videos of white people telling them to leave Like, alright man, just leave bro, I don't got time to deal with you.
Speaker 2:But him you're going to go ahead and pull him over. You're going to go ahead and go through this whole thing, but him you're going to go ahead and pull him over.
Speaker 1:You're going to go ahead and go through this whole thing Like Tyreek was wrong. His people, his mans in them, got tickets too, because those motherfuckers wanted to be bystanders and they ain't want to leave the scene.
Speaker 2:I was amazed Calais Campbell didn't get shot. If you see some six foot eight, 30 pound black man walking towards you, most times you get popped doing some shit like that.
Speaker 1:It wasn't flawed and and, like I said, he was trying to figure out what's going on he detained him. Let me play devil's advocate. Police told him to keep it moving about seven times, I count it he's blocking traffic. Okay, this ain't our beef, ain't with you, just keep going. About seven times, they told him he stays there. Then, when the cop is like, I guess I'm gonna have to give you a ticket too, no, no, no, it's too late. Now, man, I'm going to give you a ticket now too, because you're obstructing traffic, you're obstructing the justice, all this type of shit.
Speaker 2:Anyway, go ahead and the ticket's fine. Like I'm a millionaire, it's fine. Like I'm worried about give me a $300 ticket. Like I'm making $6 million this year, it's fine. It's 20 cents to me, but the money's not the matter to worry about. It's this Like if it's a traffic stop, okay, it is what it is, but the level of aggression in regards to it?
Speaker 2:But, like I said, I'm seeing it from the perspective of a black man, seeing way too many cops get way too aggressive for the most basic of things and it's not because they are violating the law. They feel that they are violating that officer's authority. So the cop? And, like I said, white people ask the cops all the time and they just drive the fuck away. They don't get put in handcuffs and get sat on the ground.
Speaker 2:Is it one thing that both parties can be wrong? Absolutely Sure. But the whole thing is that we're not going to talk about Tyreek Hill the athlete, talking about Tyreek Hill the person. If his name was Tyreek Jones and he was driving a supercar or some shit like that, I don't think he'd be deserving that treatment either. Like I said, I understand you feel entitled because of who you are and you want to get the fuck up on him and bite your way, Then he's right. We already know he's feeding. He just take it, get the fuck on Everything else.
Speaker 2:After that, interaction between him and the officer seemed unnecessary. He exacerbated a little bit and the cop took it a bit too far. Again, it's a situation that two people can be right and can be wrong at the same time. I think this is what you're falling into. I think this is what you're falling into. It's fucked up that it happened. It's worse that everything's going to come of it. And the worst part is that if the cop just acted like he had some sense and stopped acting like he was in authority, he might still have his job. It's more likely he's going to lose his job because it's too high-profile a thing right now to kind of let it slide Like I probably is not going to suffice at this point.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, but you sidetracked me, man. I'm still trying to give my shout outs to my culture crew, our loyal culture crew members shout out to d block hellwick, owner of in motion courier services out of kasimi, florida. Every time florida's mentioned, you can cringe a little bit, right, because you know some wild shit be happening over there.
Speaker 2:Because I truly believe there's something about the humidity and that moisture getting in people's brain.
Speaker 1:It's a combination of things, bro.
Speaker 2:I think it's a combination.
Speaker 1:It's the traffic, the humidity, the gators, the hurricane, the racist people and all the mass shootings that take place down there. I think it's a combination of all that shit that got people going nuts.
Speaker 2:It's all the time, man. Every time it's awesome. Like I say, they allegedly tried to shoot this man in Florida. That's all you got to say.
Speaker 1:But we got a few coaching crew members out in Florida, so we love them. Shout out to Melly Mel. Shout out to Taj. Shout out to Anonymous. Shout out to Remain Nameless. We already gave Mikey Shea a shout out. Am I missing anybody? But oh, and one last thing. Going back to Kaiser, we still gotta do the Wu-Tang versus. He reminded me to remind you about that shit, because it was supposed to be meth, ray and ghost, correct? Yes, it was supposed to do the versus. I had meth, I think you had Ray, maybe you had ghost, I can take either. And then he had the other one. So we got to do that. We got to do that soon. So we got to do that. We got to do that soon. That could be a.
Speaker 2:Patreon exclusive Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:But when we got to get back to him He'll respond to this Okay, fair enough, get that shit popping. I mean, I don't know. I think Mef got the most hits, not because he's the most popular in the group.
Speaker 2:But maybe because he's the most popular in the group, I mean you say that, but remember it's got to be high place Because you got to find the songs and, like I said, you're like, ah, Because the thing is that with you, because you like meth so much, like I like this song, that's the thing. It'd be some random track from the meth lab volume two.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing with the Versuses too, who the audience is, who's voting. You know what I'm saying, because it could be somebody that just likes the love ballads, the him, and Mary J joins. You know what I mean. But another listener could be checking for the shit that Ray do, the gutter shit. You know what I mean. But also, we got to establish the rules too, because there's songs that all three of them are in together, or there's songs that a couple of them might be in together. Is it all fair game? Whoever plays it first? We're going to have to establish these ground rules, because if I play a song with all three of them on them, I don't expect you to play that same song. You know what I mean, because I could play just the meth part Right, so you can set the rule that way.
Speaker 2:So you basically say everyone got their 20, right?
Speaker 1:No, we're not doing 20. That's too much. How many you want to do? We'll be there all day. Let's just do 10.
Speaker 2:Make it 15. 15 each, come on, but you ain't got to play the whole song. Right, right, right. So what you're going to do is that you can make it 15. Of the 15, 10 that got to be original songs and the other five is basically you just pick the verses. So that way, like I said, because we all well, like me and Kaiser, might pick Ray and goes from. Maybe that, like for the Ice Cream verse, for example. I'm not saying it's going to be a thing, but they've done a lot of shit together.
Speaker 1:And then Mev got the hook on that. Right, so it's going to be like this, bro, whoever plays it first.
Speaker 2:Whoever gets to it, gets to it, it'll be fine.
Speaker 1:Whoever plays the song first, that person is going to get credit for it.
Speaker 2:The other two are going to have to adjust, but right now we're selling our rap shit, right? What do you mean? Right, what we're talking about, mm-hmm, all right. So I mean I know we're kind of tailing off Twitter entries, want to get people what we're going to get back to doing. So let's make this easy. Do you think Wayne deserved to do the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1:No, and the only reason is that has nothing to do with political, has nothing to do with affiliations, with violence, with nothing Racism. I got nothing to do with none of that. And this is just me. I don't know what the true reason for them choosing not to elect him. My personal reason is because I saw him perform this year at Wrestlemania In April In Philly. Did you watch that shit? Yes, and that shit was trash. That was one of the worst live performances I have ever seen. Any hip hopper partaking, do you agree? Yeah, granted, he was probably drunk high. He was all types of shit.
Speaker 2:There's a bigger problem.
Speaker 1:But the shit was horrible. He sounded bad. He definitely looked disoriented and I'm not saying anybody on the NFL committee or Jay-Z, whatever committee that's put together that's in charge of the halftime show. I don't know if they was checking for this. You know what I'm saying. I don't know if anybody from that committee was watching WrestleMania and saw Wayne's performance or it was a culmination of things that led up, but for me, I saw this performance and I'm like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good on Wayne. You know what I mean. We could find somebody else. And right now, kendrick Lamar with his whole beef with Drake and shit. He's right now. He's more popular at this point in time. He's hotter right now. They're playing his music on the radio right now still.
Speaker 2:Outside of Taylor Swift, he might be the most influential, important artist going on right now. Correct.
Speaker 1:Now, I was a little surprised that they went to him this early, because he was he performed with Dre. What was it a couple years ago?
Speaker 2:What year or so ago?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a whole thing he performed with Dre, so I didn't think they were going to go back to hip-hop right away. You know what I'm saying. I figured they would do pop like a pop person. I figured they may, you know, and I'm sure they did reach out to Taylor Swift multiple times and she's like nah, I'm good, I'm too big for this, but I figured they would go to somebody else I don't know who's popular right now that they go here's a problem on the level of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:How many acts out there are there that you know, that are like Super Bowl worthy?
Speaker 1:there's not a lot, yeah, but I just didn't think they would go back to hip-hop this soon not, and especially not Kendrick, who just performed with Dr Dre not too long ago.
Speaker 2:I don't think they were actually aiming for Kendrick. I think just the way that the year has gone, his availability, you had to kind of like do it. You know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying you had Usher last year with Alicia Keys and all of that.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So I figured they would do a couple of years of that, get like maybe a pop person, an R&B person, somebody more quote, unquote, safe. You know what I mean. Right, but who Like who's left? Because you had Snoop Dogg a couple of years ago, he's. You know he was repping the Crips and shit. You know he was repping the flag. I was like, ah, they're not going to go back to that soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he also out here with Martha Stewart, right, he stopped Cripping a long time ago.
Speaker 1:Now do they?
Speaker 2:let I mean, I guess, Kendrick has to do it.
Speaker 1:You have to do that at least for 20 or 30 seconds. Let some people dance. Do they allow the crip walking up on the stage? Do they allow all the affiliated members to come up on there.
Speaker 2:Snoop was up there whole ass. Z-walking. Yes, you can do it Once you had Snoop out there. Z-walking, anybody can do it.
Speaker 1:But again, that just happened a couple years ago. Are they going to allow that again so soon?
Speaker 2:But that's the whole point and I think if you're talking about anything in regards to the influence of Jay-Z in regards to Superbowl, we're going to disregard the soul Kendrick thing. It's a fact that they have black artists up there performing and it kind of fits. Like I said, the thing with usher was in Vegas at time and the reason because he was so popular in Vegas. Like you know, people who like took their time have slide to there, go see his show. That's how popular he was. He happened to be there. He doesn't represent Vegas, he just happened to be there.
Speaker 2:People are saying, well, they're New Orleans. You have Lil Wayne. The whole problem with that. It's not what we said before about his performance sucking at WrestleMania, it's the whole thing that when you think about it and you see him, is he drunk or high? That's their biggest issue. Can you have you out here in the biggest stage fucking up lyrics? You think he still drinks lean? I don't think so. I don't know. I don't think I might be off that, but he might be on other substances, and this is just. I'm just insinuating. I'm not saying that it's true, but the fact that you thought that watching him at WrestleMania says enough. So if you put that on an audience of hundreds of millions of people. You have to be on your A game. They're not going to pick no half-ass artists. The funny thing about the Super Bowl is that the guy that should have been perfect for the Super Bowl, Drake, Clean enough to get in the pits.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask you do you think Kendrick brings out Drake no, because I just think he doesn't like him. Kendrick brings out Drake no.
Speaker 2:I know, because I just think he doesn't like it.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've been following. Drake has been playing the Kendrick songs in his concerts. Because he recognizes, he's like fuck it, if I can't beat him, let's join him. So he'll throw on Not Like Us, and he'll sing and he'll dance along to the shit, which to me is kind of weird. It is, but it's also probably like a sign of solidarity, like he's trying to extend the olive branch, it's not?
Speaker 2:weird, you got it.
Speaker 1:Like, you got this. You know what I mean. Let's move on from it.
Speaker 2:Like it's weird when you say it, but it's not really that weird because, like you said, unless you got some shit saying I'm a pedophile.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but 20 years later you don't see Nas playing a fucking what was the shit Takeover? You don't see Jay playing Ether. And they've been squashed, they beef.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're also two dudes in two different lanes. Nas still out here performing, jay is not. Jay out here buying art and all the kind of cool shit.
Speaker 1:Whatever?
Speaker 2:he's doing, man, he got no time for all this. Like I said, jay would be a perfect person to have at the Super Bowl, because he has the track record, he has the hits.
Speaker 1:He won't do it, yo, but how wild would it be if Kendrick says you know, remember how Jay brought Nas out when they squashed their beef? He's like fuck it, let's do this for hip-hop. You imagine Kendrick in front of the world, this is the most audience, the most views he's going to have. This is the biggest stage, the Super Bowl halftime show. More people are going to watch this than any other show. And he says yo fuck it for the culture, no, and brings out Drake. And then they do the one song that they got together real quick. He can't do it, he can't do it, he can't. You think he'll lose some street cred.
Speaker 2:He'll lose all credibility because the whole thing he's trying to point out, like I am the culture, you're a visitor to the culture. That's the difference. Me trying to beat crush shit up with you is not the thing. That's his issue with Drake. It's not that he just likes him as a person, he just thinks that he's. Like I said, you're not a colleague, you're a fucking colonizer. You come in here, you jump on trends, you do all this other kind of shit. You sound Jamaican, you do this, you do that and like you're not yourself, you don't represent the culture I do. I'm not even saying I am, he's a part of it. Kendrick loves this shit. Kendrick, like, here's the thing. Like I said, he just had a concert in Englewood. He just became the most streamed person of all time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I said, he had the pop-out thing. He put on a little mini concert right there, so you're giving him the stage to do this on the grander scale of the Super Bowl. He's the most popular person out there. Can you remember the Super Bowl? They don't pay you Right. All your shit's coming from. Like you know you get more streams and shit like that. Like I said, that's why Taylor Swift's never doing it Like she's a businesswoman. She don't need that shit. She's out here endorsing political candidates.
Speaker 1:So you know she don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:You know she don't need money.
Speaker 1:She don't care if she loses fans, she don't need money, she good.
Speaker 2:And when you get to that part and as you try to figure out who's the bigger star, stars at that level don't come out like that beyonce is not doing this no more.
Speaker 1:I think that's one of the universal signs that they good, they super good when they start endorsing candidates. When you see a celebrity endorse a political candidate and they lean one way, you know they good they bag is secure because there's influencers and there's influencers.
Speaker 2:She's an influencer when she says something. She has millions of people that follow her trends Friendship bracelets, shit like that. If Taylor Swift says you know what, I prefer Pepsi to Coke, Coke stock could fucking plummet Immediately. She's just that powerful. When she says I'm behind this person, that means it's almost like being in the union, like we all gotta vote for her.
Speaker 1:Now that that's my people.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so when you talk about that level of fame, if you got enough power to like, help, maybe possibly influence a presidential election, what the fuck would you give a fuck about? The superbowl? Like, I don't care, not doing, she's not doing it. Like I said, in the whole thing they bitching about Wayne and being in his town. Like yo, when the shit was in Minneapolis, they didn't have Prince there. No, if Prince did it somewhere else, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And, like I said, I don't want to have an argument about Wayne. I love Wayne. I think he deserves a spot. Just because it's home, he's in your top 10?, wayne? Yeah, easy, easy, no hesitation.
Speaker 1:Wayne is one of those rappers, much like Jay too, that I've learned to appreciate as I've gotten older. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Wayne's like LeBron James at rapping. You're amazed how long he's been doing this. This is going on what? 30 plus years? Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, and it's all different ones, I just have to the longest time I had to get past his voice.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I had to get past the voice. I had to get past the accent. I had to get past, you know what I mean, all of that. And then when I started really listening to him and trying to put together the words, I'm like yo, this motherfucker nice. He's probably the king of the punchlines and shit.
Speaker 2:Wayne Witty Wayne the Carter series is great. His mixtape run is almost impeccable. His mixtape run might be making him untouchable. No one. Maybe fab maybe had a better mixtape run? Yes, easily Right. So when? Maybe fab maybe had a better mixed tape? Yes, easily right. So when you think about him over time you realize how great he actually is. It's not anything negative against wayne.
Speaker 1:Is the fact like fuck, he's good, he's amazingly good, and I don't know how he's still good at this the thing you could do with hip that you can't do in sports, though, is you can say yo, he's the best from the south. You know, I mean you could break it down like yo, this guy is the best in new york, this guy is the best cube or whoever's the best out west. You know, I mean, wayne is the best in the south. You could say that naz and jay and big they're the best in new york but it's a, it's a great comparison because rappers like basketball players, because like.
Speaker 2:It's like how you say someone who's the best shooter. It's like saying who's the best lyricist or who's the best um, who has the best double entendres, or who has the best flow, who has the best voice. It's like the best storyteller, right, like like dmx might not be in your top 10, but it might be in your top five in regards to like voice and personality and how it makes you feel Like that. Yes, that's what's like basketball sometimes. Sometimes, when you're a GOAT in basketball and you're a GOAT in rap, that means you have the particular versatility that not a lot of people do Like. When you say Jay, he's like oh, jay's in my top five, like, I get it. Like you don't even argue Nah, he's in my top five, okay, I get it. But you say LL's in my top five, ooh, but then you have to make your case. But that's like saying you know, vince is the greatest dunker. Most people will say that.
Speaker 1:And LL's like Dominique Wilkins, you're like oh yeah, I forgot how fucking good he was, and the LL album is dope too, son.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Force is great. Actually, it's surprising how well him and Q-Tip go together.
Speaker 1:Q-Tip produced the whole thing, whole thing. Do you like the song with him and Eminem? No, here we go with this. Eminem hate again.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:LL did his thing on there. He went toe to toe. He did the fast shit, he did the slow shit. You know what I mean? I know, but I hate that.
Speaker 2:It's like L they just rapping Right, I know, but I just want L to do what he do in his LL way. It's not that I hated the song. Actually I like both of them on it. I just don't like how it flows together.
Speaker 1:My favorite song is Saturday Night. What's that shit called?
Speaker 2:Saturday Night Special.
Speaker 1:The only thing I hate about the song is Fat Joe.
Speaker 2:I felt like he didn't fit.
Speaker 1:It just felt like he ain't fit. Ll comes on, he spits his shit. Ross comes on he's spitting. That's what I felt about the Eminem thing and it felt deep, it felt lyrical and then here comes Fat Joe and he's talking about you know the street shit and selling crack and whatever the fuck he does like alright man. I felt like his verse didn't fit well, like if they could replace Joe with like a Nas or somebody more lyrical, I thought it would have been better you know what I don't understand about?
Speaker 2:Joe, Like you ain't sold crack in 20 years, man Let that shit go Crack crack. Like all right man Joey crack. I get it. You started a thing with him out here with no shirt on looking sexy. Go ahead, Joe, he has some double D titties bro. Hey man, you got a little fly boy flapping the wind. Fly, pelican fly.
Speaker 1:But yo man, let's end this one. I just want to let the culture crew and all the listeners know that we ain't going to, unless something catastrophic happens, you know, a tragedy or something like that.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ, stop that shit.
Speaker 1:I told you I could get this liver shit.
Speaker 2:looked at he's like it's kind of catastrophic Like let me get my liver together.
Speaker 1:Calm down. Yo, we appreciate y'all. We got some more shit. Yo, the merch is coming though for the Culture Crew members. I got the merch on the way. Thank you for tuning in. We'll be back soon. Peace, bye.
